# Your LB/HP Thread.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 5, 2007, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188 "2007-12-05T09:07:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JoeZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JoeZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeZ)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/21 "2007-12-06T09:08:27Z")

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> [@Vovchandr](#):
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> More LB/HP stats, so far some good examples. I thought 3000gt’s would get hit harder then they did, but they make more then enough power to make up for it.

My daily driver

**1999 Civic HX**   
115 hp (crank)  
2440 lbs est (never actually put this car on scale)

21.21 :tong

Might be better if I removed the subwoofer,amp, and egay strut braces,

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**Author:** ![RTrac1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rtrac1/32/6312_2.png) [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/22 "2007-12-06T10:20:58Z")

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stock (using ratings, I didnt dyno my truck :lol)

HP-239 TQ-278  
curb weight- 4,290lbs

17.9 lbs/hp

now  
HP-239  
weight after adding armor (full skids, steel bumper, sliders),big tires, winch, tools-around 5,000lbs  
20.9 lbs/hp

;D ;D

Its got pretty low gearing, so it moves alright :ninja

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/23 "2007-12-06T11:14:28Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> #2. Near stock looking/clean setup/tasteful mods/all the features that came with the car: radio/comfy seats/etc… A beautiful M3 is not something you should strip. Go strip some piece of shit Honda that you can buy for $56.43.

disagree, losing some weight in an e36 is exponential to the fun factor of the car

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/24 "2007-12-06T11:28:21Z")

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This from the guy that took maybe 150lbs off his car. 2400lb widebody race car will rock you in your happy place.

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**Author:** ![JoeZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JoeZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeZ)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/25 "2007-12-06T11:47:21Z")

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> [@JClark](#):
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> The stock seats are definitely not comfy!

Mine or yours?

I keep the stock passenger seat in for the wifey since she likes the heated seats. But if it were up to me I’d drop 60lbs off and throw my other Recaro PP in.

I will say that I was surprised at how comfortable the Recaro was once I installed it…then I was kicking myself for waiting so long to make the switch.

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/26 "2007-12-06T11:57:54Z")

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I mean mine in the DD for Shawn. The stock Vaders are NOT comfortable.

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**Author:** ![JoeZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JoeZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeZ)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/27 "2007-12-06T13:07:06Z")

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> [@JClark](#):
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> I mean mine in the DD for Shawn. The stock Vaders are NOT comfortable.

And don’t they weigh about 170lbs each :lol

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/28 "2007-12-06T21:14:14Z")

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> [@bennyfizzle](#):
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> disagree, losing some weight in an e36 is exponential to the fun factor of the car

That’s ridiculous. It’s a BMW. It’s a LUXURY car. But, it’s your car so do what you want. 🙂

> [@JClark](#):
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> I mean mine in the DD for Shawn. The stock Vaders are NOT comfortable.

You need to rock the leather seats. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JoeZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JoeZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeZ)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/29 "2007-12-07T04:33:43Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> That’s ridiculous. It’s a BMW. It’s a LUXURY car.

My luxury car has fewer luxuries than my Honda

-No A/C  
-No ABS  
-No traction control  
-No cruise control

It’s quite loud to ride in, the ride is pretty harsh, there is gear chatter from the ltw flywheel… ;D

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/30 "2007-12-07T07:52:01Z")

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AC, ABS, AWS, AWD, 12-way leather power seats w/ lumbar, digital climate control, 600AWHP+ etc… Yea for 91 technology!

I’ll take the luxury then strip a car down. That’s just me tho. 😃

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/31 "2007-12-07T07:55:52Z")

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I’m not 64 years old, so I’ll take going fast instead of being comfortable. ;D

BMWs are luxury cars, they are race cars weighed down with lots of comfort garbage. Remove it, and have fun.

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**Author:** ![JoeZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JoeZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeZ)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/32 "2007-12-07T08:09:31Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> AC, ABS, AWS, AWD, 12-way leather power seats w/ lumbar, digital climate control, 600AWHP+ etc… Yea for 91 technology!
> 
> I’ll take the luxury then strip a car down. That’s just me tho. 😃

I’m not knocking modern technology (or early 90’s technology…gotta love the NSX), but for the most part, modern cars are fcking pigs.

My goal with my car was to make my own version of a modern day AC Cobra (powerful short wheelbase roadster). And to some extent it is luxurious when compared to a cobra…I’ve got wipers, I’ve got a top I can put up (although it is a manual top), I’ve got a radio, I’ve got a heater, defroster…the list goes on and on ;D

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**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/33 "2007-12-07T08:17:41Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> AWS

:crackup

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/34 "2007-12-07T08:40:31Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> AC, ABS, AWS, AWD, 600AWHP+ etc… Yea for 91 technology!

Sounds like an R32 Skyline right there.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/35 "2007-12-07T09:19:35Z")

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> [@Vovchandr](#):
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> Sounds like an R32 Skyline right there.

Don’t you ever compare my car to a R32! 🙂

Everyone has their own goals. I can appreciate the person who wants a stripped out car for AutoX. For me, I will probably only want a car with boltons that retains majority of the original car’s functionality. No lips/body kits or anything like that. It needs to look/feel/seem like it’s original self as much as possible. That’s just how I like things. Everyone is diff. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/36 "2007-12-07T09:23:11Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> That’s ridiculous. It’s a BMW. It’s a LUXURY car. But, it’s your car so do what you want. 🙂
> 
> You need to rock the leather seats. 🙂

I wouldn’t consider an E36 M3 a ‘luxury’ car at all, aside from leather, heated power seats, an on board computer, sunroof, tool kit, full size spare, tri-color stiching in steering wheel, oil life indicator lights…hmm

eff that sheet metal fabric and sunroof delete are whats up :rofl

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/37 "2007-12-07T09:25:07Z")

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not to mention you can easily get 150-200lbs out of the rear of these cars which pushes the weight balance from slightly favoring the rear (49/51) to damn near neutral.

completely transforms the character of the car, and aside from the sound of every little thing the tires pick up hitting the wheel well sheet metal, i effin love it.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/38 "2007-12-07T09:25:46Z")

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oh, and dont get me wrong, i get sick of it after a while, but when i do i just throw the rear seats back in and youd never know all the carpet/sound deadening was gone, and it takes all of a minute or two 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/39 "2007-12-07T09:45:06Z")

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A BMW M3 isn’t a luxury car? Someone needs to tell BMW marketing team then.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/40 "2007-12-07T09:46:35Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> A BMW M3 isn’t a luxury car? Someone needs to tell BMW marketing team then.

:lol

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