# Your LB/HP Thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [December 5, 2007, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188 "2007-12-05T09:07:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/41 "2007-12-07T10:22:31Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > A BMW M3 isn’t a luxury car? Someone needs to tell BMW marketing team then. there was sarcasm in there ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/42 "2007-12-07T16:26:09Z")
> [@bennyfizzle](#): > > not to mention you can easily get 150-200lbs out of the rear of these cars which pushes the weight balance from slightly favoring the rear (49/51) to damn near neutral. > > completely transforms the character of the car, and aside from the sound of every little thing the tires pick up hitting the wheel well sheet metal, i effin love it. Someone needs to get their numbers right. And stop posting 3 posts in a row and just edit the first one. :stfu A light car is faster than a balanced car. It is better to remove weight than to leave it in with the goal of having it “balanced”. ---
**Author:** ![redroof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@redroof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redroof)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/43 "2007-12-07T16:30:05Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > A light car is faster than a balanced car. It is better to remove weight than to leave it in with the goal of having it “balanced”. Damn straight. I’m looking to end up in the ballpark of 37/63 when i’m done. Do I care? Fuck no. Will there be asinine amounts of rubber to keep her stuck? Fuck yes. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/44 "2007-12-07T16:50:11Z")
Here we go with the [faulty] big rubber argument again… ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/45 "2007-12-07T19:21:22Z")
goddamn guardrails jumpin outta nowhere… :headbang ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/46 "2007-12-07T20:16:28Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > goddamn guardrails jumpin outta nowhere… :headbang And other vehicles… ;D ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/47 "2007-12-07T21:10:10Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > Someone needs to get their numbers right. And stop posting 3 posts in a row and just edit the first one. :stfu > > A light car is faster than a balanced car. It is better to remove weight than to leave it in with the goal of having it “balanced”. all i know is before i dropped the weight, right at the limit the car exhibited a bit of understeer, whereas now it remains quite neutral, and if necessary a little throttle is all it needs to rotate the car more, whereas throttle at the limit prior would only produce understeer… thats the best way i can describe it :drink ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/48 "2007-12-07T21:15:27Z")
> [@bennyfizzle](#): > > all i know is before i dropped the weight, right at the limit the car exhibited a bit of understeer, whereas now it remains quite neutral, and if necessary a little throttle is all it needs to rotate the car more, whereas throttle at the limit prior would only produce understeer… > > thats the best way i can describe it :drink Sorry, calling BS. _Raises flag_. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/49 "2007-12-07T21:56:59Z")
Try it in your DD lol idk what else to say, i can’t see how you can call BS on MY interpretation of MY car’s handling changes, but ok…i have my little ‘areas’ for this sort of thing where i go to play, and i may not have hundreds of hours of track time, but i KNOW that my explanation is as close as i can get to putting my experience of the effect that the removal of weight from the rear of the car has on it’s handling dynamic, so to speak, into words. I’ll be the first to say I’m one of the members who will occasionally regurgitate hearsay from bf.c/other forums, but this is something I’ve experienced first hand, and it is VERY noticeable as i described, imo. ---
**Author:** ![redroof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@redroof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redroof)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/50 "2007-12-08T00:08:52Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > Here we go with the [faulty] big rubber argument again… It’s not a faulty argument in the least. I’ve driven MR2’s with large amounts of rubber onboard and a proper alignment. They’re a totally different car. You wouldn’t put average sized rubber on the back of a porsche either. I’m taking no chances this time. It’s stick or die. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/51 "2007-12-08T06:55:33Z")
I’ll just keep my heavy car and beat up on the weaklings and enjoy my luxury. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/52 "2007-12-08T07:22:25Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I’ll just keep my heavy car and beat up on the weaklings and enjoy my luxury. 🙂 word, you have one of the best highway beasts out there ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/53 "2007-12-08T08:58:52Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I’ll just keep my heavy car and beat up on the weaklings only in a straight line or a highway and enjoy my luxury. 🙂 Fixed it for ya. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/54 "2007-12-08T17:01:03Z")
> [@Cossey](#): > > Fixed it for ya. True. You can be a fag and drive around the cones. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/55 "2007-12-08T19:45:32Z")
Cones are for homos, FIA curbing is for real men. :lol ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/56 "2007-12-08T23:15:54Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > Cones are for homos, FIA curbing is for real men. :lol We’ll see next year when I’m tearing all of your best times apart… \*Please note sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188/57 "2007-12-08T23:32:53Z")
Cossey, you are a true trash talker and I salute you. We need more of you around. And I accept your challenge. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-lb-hp-thread/235188.md?page=2)