# Z28 or Trans Am

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 10, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867 "2005-03-10T13:14:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/81 "2005-03-22T07:43:24Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> no, I’m 100% right  
> now, I am wrong about the Z28, that ran 12.88 though, that was just a standard cloth seet, stripper Z28. not a B4C…
> 
> But I am right about B4C’s being Z28s

they dont have bages!

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/82 "2005-03-22T07:44:38Z")

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> [@PewterSS](#):
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> they dont have bages!

go look at the title for a b4c, tell me what it says.

should say “CAMARO CPE Z”

just like the SS’s say

Here you go  
[http://www.camarosource.ca/main\_new\_site.php?url=new\_site/rare\_specialty/write-ups/b4c\_police\_pkg.htm](http://www.camarosource.ca/main_new_site.php?url=new_site/rare_specialty/write-ups/b4c_police_pkg.htm)

> [@camarosource.ca](#):
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> Story behind the B4C Package (“Police Package”):
> 
> Muscle Camaro’s through the years have also played a part in law enforcement. It started in 1979 when the California Highway Patrol evaluated a dozen **specially prepared Z28s** as high-speed pursuit vehicles.
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> Full-size Chevrolets had always appealed to local and state police departments for their interior room. By the end of the 1980s, however, the Caprice simply was not available with the high-output V-8s that were needed for pursuit work. Neither the TPI 305 nor 350 were available in the Caprice. Chevrolet responded to complaints heard from police departments by offering a Special Equipment Option (SEO) “Special Service Package.” (RPO B4C) on the Camaro RS Coupe for 1991. Available only to law enforcement, it was basically a Z28 in RS trim. The machines retained the factory spoilers and fender flares, but the expected police-associated equipment was added. The patrol’s standard-issue shotguns were shortened to fit the Z’s interior. To be sure it could be easily spot, the B4C-equipped Camaro’s did not come equipped with the Z28 hood blisters or high-profile rear spoiler.
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> These cars were a revelation to those police departments that bought them and the officers who drove them. They were no longer left in the dust but could easily pursue and overtake just about any car on the road, except maybe the Corvette or another Z28! Law enforcement journals began writing about the B4C Camaros and soon local and state police departments began including them in their annual budget requests. In that first year (1991) a total of 592 B4C Camaros were ordered. Of course, those eagle-eyed Camaro sleuths who discovered the 1LE option soon unearthed the B4C Special Service Package. Stealth Performance was born.

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/83 "2005-03-22T07:47:18Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> go look at the title for a b4c, tell me what it says.
> 
> should say “CAMARO CPE Z”
> 
> just like the SS’s say

nope, title on all camaro’s say camaro cp,not z,z28 or SS!~ does ur title say cobra?

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/84 "2005-03-22T07:48:20Z")

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> [@PewterSS](#):
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> nope, title on all camaro’s say camaro cp,not z,z28 or SS!~ does ur title say cobra?

yes, it does say Cobra. in fact it says “MSTNG CBRA CPE SVT”

and my title for my Z28, and my SS, both said “CAMARO CPE Z”

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/85 "2005-03-22T07:50:32Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> yes, it does say Cobra. in fact it says “MSTNG CBRA CPE SVT”
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> and my title for my Z28, and my SS, both said “CAMARO CPE Z”

give me a fax# i’ll fax u fifty camaro titles & prove u wrong!u fax me ur cobra ONE!

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/86 "2005-03-22T07:52:17Z")

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> [@PewterSS](#):
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> give me a fax# i’ll fax u fifty camaro titles & prove u wrong!u fax me ur cobra ONE!

that still doesnt prove that the B4C is an option onto the Z28

just like the 1LE… theyre not seperate trim packages, theyre options

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/87 "2005-03-22T07:54:58Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> that still doesnt prove that the B4C is an option onto the Z28
> 
> just like the 1LE… theyre not seperate trim packages, theyre options

guess u dont have ur TITLE!!gameover u loose!

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/88 "2005-03-22T07:57:14Z")

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> [@PewterSS](#):
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> guess u dont have ur TITLE!!gameover u loose!

not the original, just a copy, lol… bank owns it lol

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/89 "2005-03-22T08:21:22Z")

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my regsetratino says 1995 Camaro Cp

my insurance says 95 Camaro Z28 Cp

my title says 1995 Cheverolet Cp

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**Author:** ![amwellls1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@amwellls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amwellls1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/90 "2005-03-22T08:38:50Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> umm no, youre 100% wrong
> 
> the car is still titled as a Z28, and has Z28 badging, just has a B4C Police Optioned package

Um no your wrong they are a camaro specail service coup here check this out

> **[Still questioning 6-speed B4C? - LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion](https://ls1tech.com/forums/new-ls1-owners-newbie-tech/287363-still-questioning-6-speed-b4c.html)**
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> New LS1 Owners - Newbie Tech - Still questioning 6-speed B4C? - For those who don't think they were ever produced. http://memimage.cardomain.net/member\_images/1/web/781000-781999/781245\_10\_full.jpg...

Do you see any z28 listed on that sticker?  
[http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203374&highlight=b4c](http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203374&highlight=b4c)

Any z-28 badges on that one?

Here ya go an advertisement directly from chevy, where is the z-28 badges I do not see any  
[http://www.copcarsonline.com/photos/gallery\_photo83.htm](http://www.copcarsonline.com/photos/gallery_photo83.htm)

And just so you know alot of the turner cars, ie berger, tom henry, hot rod test car. Started out life as b4c’s because of the cheaper priceing, hence no z-28 or ss badges on them.

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/91 "2005-03-22T08:41:13Z")

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> [@amwellls1](#):
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> Um no your wrong they are a camaro specail service coup here check this out
> 
> [Still questioning 6-speed B4C? - LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion](http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287363&highlight=b4c)
> 
> Do you see any z28 listed on that sticker?  
> [http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203374&highlight=b4c](http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203374&highlight=b4c)
> 
> Any z-28 badges on that one?
> 
> Here ya go an advertisement directly from chevy, where is the z-28 badges I do not see any  
> [http://www.copcarsonline.com/photos/gallery\_photo83.htm](http://www.copcarsonline.com/photos/gallery_photo83.htm)
> 
> And just so you know alot of the turner cars, ie berger, tom henry, hot rod test car. Started out life as b4c’s because of the cheaper priceing, hence no z-28 or ss badges on them.

[http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=234409&postcount=82](http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=234409&postcount=82)

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/92 "2005-03-22T08:45:34Z")

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[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=4537367849&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=4537367849&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

its a b4c camaro…it has no badges

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**Author:** ![amwellls1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@amwellls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amwellls1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/93 "2005-03-22T08:48:00Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> that still doesnt prove that the B4C is an option onto the Z28
> 
> just like the 1LE… theyre not seperate trim packages, theyre options

b4c is not an option available on a z28, only on a fleet special service vehicle

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**Author:** ![amwellls1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@amwellls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amwellls1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/94 "2005-03-22T08:52:36Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> umm no, youre 100% wrong
> 
> the car is still titled as a Z28, and has Z28 badging, just has a B4C Police Optioned package

You have been :owned:

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/95 "2005-03-22T09:05:11Z")

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who is owned? blue or Pewter???

IB:ban:

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**Author:** ![amwellls1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@amwellls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amwellls1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/96 "2005-03-22T09:07:22Z")

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> [@BlkP42E](#):
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> who is owned? blue or Pewter???
> 
> IB:ban:

Blue

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/97 "2005-03-22T09:44:23Z")

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> [@amwellls1](#):
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> Blue

why to go rick! :bigok:

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**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/98 "2005-03-22T10:39:55Z")

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:drama: interesting

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**Author:** ![Slim\_06\_F-150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@Slim\_06\_F-150](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slim_06_F-150)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/99 "2005-03-22T15:05:03Z")

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what do you guys think about me just buying a Z28 or TA then puttin the SS hood or WS6 hood on it to save some cash? Especially since the only reason i want a SS or WS6 is because the hoods make them look alot better. I will be modding this car anyhow so the minimal performance differences between 2 shouldnt matter, what do yins think?

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**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z28-or-trans-am/172867/100 "2005-03-22T15:27:52Z")

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not a bad idea. how much does not having the same suspension bother you? what about the 17in wheels? it would bother me. i would atleast want 17s, and a functional ram-air hood. the suspension is important, but not as much. …atleast to me.

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