# Z31NA2T's Less-Ugly Z-car: 74 260Z
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [December 12, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128 "2010-12-12T18:11:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/1 "2010-12-12T18:11:21Z")
Paid $1000 for it, probably too much…needs some floor patch work, but overall its not too rusty IMO (for a NY car)
Reasons to go to a L28? More displacement, higher compression ratio (10.4:1), and this:
Ignore my dirt tire machine please, its been cleaned since. LOL
Plans are:
F54-blocked L28, with 10.4:1 Compression Ratio
Stage 3 or 4 Motorsport Auto Camshaft
Header (probably the MSA header)
2.5" exhaust
Triple Webers 40 DCOE’s
Port the head (E88)
Full poly
Coilovers…etc
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### Author:  [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/2 "2010-12-12T19:19:38Z")
you sir are very ambitious
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/3 "2010-12-12T19:57:41Z")
That’s in worse shape than the one I bought, and I paid $500 for mine. This isn’t going anywhere good.
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### Author:  [@Axis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axis)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/4 "2010-12-12T20:28:44Z")
Doesn’t seem that bad just from those pictures. If the rails are solid and the floors aren’t falling apart then thats not bad at all, but I got a feeling they probably are just like on every other s30.
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### Author:  [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/5 "2010-12-12T20:46:18Z")
> [@Axis](#):
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> Doesn’t seem that bad just from those pictures. If the rails are solid and the floors aren’t falling apart then thats not bad at all, but I got a feeling they probably are just like on every other s30.
Theres a lot of surface rust on suspension components, but the frame seems pretty solid. It does need floor work, but I’ll be ordering new floor pans and center frame rails shortly.
You can see the passenger side frame rail near the back is rusted out, but the rest of the car is pretty solid, just the center section. Even the rockers look decent, and feel pretty solid.
> [@MPD47](#):
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> That’s in worse shape than the one I bought, and I paid $500 for mine. This isn’t going anywhere good.
Do you have anything good to say, or do you just talk shit?
FWIW, Mine came with a Triple Webers that the car was never run on. They’re Italian made webers too, not the new Spanish made ones. That means the carburetors alone are worth almost what I paid for the car.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/6 "2010-12-12T20:47:42Z")
Do you have any quality cars? Or do you just buy shit?
Floor and frame rot, looks like the rear rockers where the subframe ties in are rotted too.
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### Author:  [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/7 "2010-12-12T20:55:11Z")
You are way more ambitious than me :tup:
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### Author:  [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/8 "2010-12-12T21:02:53Z")
> [@MPD47](#):
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> Do you have any quality cars? Or do you just buy shit?
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> Floor and frame rot, looks like the rear rockers where the subframe ties in are rotted too.
You’re right, the car is being supported on the lift by something thats rotted and non-existant. GTFO troll.
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Close ups of the front frame rails near the tension rods
This will easily be cleaned up as its just surface rust.
Cars got 45,000 miles on it, documented. It was last registered in 1979. DOCUMENTED. I’ve went over all the rust, 95% of it is surface. Rockers are solid, pinch welds are perfect with some surface rust starting, and the rear subframe mounting points are perfectly solid. The front frame rails are all clean. The ONLY spot that has any rust holes on the under side is the floor pans, NOT extending into the transmission tunnel, where it is mint, and the transmission crossmember mounting points are solid. Theres ONE spot in the floor with a baseball sized hole, at the back side of the passenger frame rail. EVERYWHERE within 10" around this hole is solid and rust free.
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### Author:  [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/9 "2010-12-12T21:13:18Z")
A build thread is where someone can show their work and progress on what project they are working on. Its not some classic 69 camaro or anything he’s working on but its what he wants to do so we should at least allow him that in is own build thread without criticism.
:tup: Good luck to ya!
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### Author:  [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/10 "2010-12-12T21:15:36Z")
> [@NYstanger](#):
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> A build thread is where someone can show their work and progress on what project they are working on. Its not some classic 69 camaro or anything he’s working on but its what he wants to do so we should at least allow him that in is own build thread without criticism.
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> :tup: Good luck to ya!
I’m fine with constructive criticism, but to be constantly ragging on me and talking crap is pushing it a little bit. The pictures make the rust look worse than it really is, it should all clean up pretty easily, I’ll update soon once I start cleaning parts up 🙂
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/11 "2010-12-12T21:29:23Z")
MPD47 is our local hate-train, lol. Finish this build and show good progress and that will shut him up. 🙂
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### Author:  [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/12 "2010-12-12T21:31:13Z")
> [@Z31NA2T](#):
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> GTFO troll.
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ha.
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### Author:  [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/13 "2010-12-12T21:32:58Z")
> [@XwalkerX](#):
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Was that many quotes really necessary? lol
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/14 "2010-12-12T21:36:15Z")
lol, it’s just funny seeing someone call Mike a troll. 🙂
OK, now lets keep this thread back on topic.
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### Author:  [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/15 "2010-12-12T21:51:07Z")
Its ok. My name is Mike too btw. He actually reminds me of me somewhat, opinionated. lol
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### Author:  [@95dime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95dime)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/16 "2010-12-12T21:55:30Z")
i love these cars. i want one, but to put an ls1 in and slam it on the ground…
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### Author:  [@woz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woz)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/17 "2010-12-12T22:29:15Z")
i want that dash.
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### Author:  [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/18 "2010-12-12T22:46:03Z")
So wait…this is your less ugly Z car?
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/19 "2010-12-13T05:56:45Z")
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z31na2ts-less-ugly-z-car-74-260z/207128/20 "2010-12-13T06:05:00Z")
Hey with all that rust no need for weight reduction :tup:
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