# Z32 4-Piston Caliper on S13 (front) **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [January 13, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116 "2009-01-13T13:52:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Turboner](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turboner/32/5603_2.png) [@Turboner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turboner)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/21 "2009-01-16T10:56:18Z")
Just from personal experience… MY old setup on my s14 was Z32TT Front calipers only. Stoped amazing. works fine. Pedal ‘feel’–\> stop whining. Velos had the “perfect” setup… and that Stoped even better. Want it to work perfect? Convert EVERYTHING To z32,–\>MASTER, BOOSTER(\<–important), calipers front AND REAR. and put new parts on for pete’s sake.(rotors+pad) Oh and if you dont’ have a set of solid TC rods, get them now, or you will feel your car ‘wander’ when you hit the breaks. I’ll bet Varun or Bing will have a set the’re sitting on right now. ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/22 "2009-01-17T07:43:39Z")
Turboner…already got tc rods. now, i’m getting a lot of different opinions here. unless i can get some solid opinions. then it’ll be a trial and error. more then likely spend the 200 to have them put on and try it. works to my standards then i’ll rebuild calipers, cd&s rotors etc etc etc. ---
**Author:** ![AhmadG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ahmadg/32/5577_2.png) [@AhmadG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AhmadG)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/23 "2009-01-17T23:25:07Z")
Yeah, I bet TC rods make a huge difference in feel. My car’s steering wheel turns clockwise like 30° while the car is still going straight (sometimes wanders) when I load the TC rod bushings under heavy braking. They’re fucked…but I haven’t put on Bing’s TC rods yet because I wanna put on my Nismo brace with them…and in order to do that I have to fix my rad support. Bahhhh, can’t wait til summer, performance parts in the basement collecting dust are sad to look at. ---
**Author:** ![HayMakr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/haymakr/32/5738_2.png) [@HayMakr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HayMakr)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/24 "2009-01-18T00:58:13Z")
i did the swap on the front (30mm) and i felt the pedal was very mushy, i hated it. so i grabbed a z32 tt bmc from some auto parts store and it felt perfect after that. personally i love the really firm feel but to each his own i guess… heres the site i got all my info from when doing the swap, should just about address any question you could possibly have about the topic… > **[The Definitive 300ZX Brake Swap](http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm)** > > Why do this swap? What are the benefits? The primary purpose is to improve the overall braking performance. This is accomplished by installing larger rotors and calipers. The Nissan Z32 300ZX provi… ---
**Author:** ![BRA\_GANZAAAAAA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bra_ganzaaaaaa/32/5673_2.png) [@BRA\_GANZAAAAAA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BRA_GANZAAAAAA)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/25 "2009-01-18T01:16:33Z")
i have z32 brakes oem s13 stock master cylinder and it works fine but i wish i had my abs back shit locks up really easily ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/26 "2009-02-16T16:03:58Z")
for everyone that knows or has done the BMC swap. Do you HAVE to use the 2 front holes on the master? I skipped the center hole and just used to furthest towards the bumper and furthest towards the fire wall. Just from gravity bleeding them all 4 are holding the same. I will know for sure once i drive the car in a month or so. Yet i’d rather ask to be sure. Can;t seem to find the answer any where. Thank you very much ---
**Author:** ![DarkManX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/darkmanx/32/5569_2.png) [@DarkManX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkManX)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/27 "2009-02-16T17:07:24Z")
I finished doing my swap not too long ago, the pedal feels amazing. Here are some pics: Before: ![http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/zenkiS14-5/DSCF2731.jpg](http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/zenkiS14-5/DSCF2731.jpg) After: (Sand blasted and painted w/ high temp enamel) ![http://i44.tinypic.com/2e3zj3l.jpg](http://i44.tinypic.com/2e3zj3l.jpg) ![http://i42.tinypic.com/2v95fgo.jpg](http://i42.tinypic.com/2v95fgo.jpg) ![http://i44.tinypic.com/3508exc.jpg](http://i44.tinypic.com/3508exc.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/28 "2009-02-16T17:12:39Z")
HAH. I have the same “idea” for paint on my calipers. Black with NISSAN in red. Black rims with red stripe…figured…you know. Yea Lol looks wicked Darkman! I’m just finishing my swap now. Gotta bleed the brakes and fuck with the e-brake still. Just curious about the 1-2-3 holes on the BMC Don;t have pictures of my sway yet either. Yet it does look moocho bettah with the spacers and bigger brakes. Can’t wait to see how good these brakes will work! I always upgrade my brakes…dunno why. I just…like having brakes! Only thing left is coil overs. Then my goal for winter time build up will be accomplished. Suspension and brakes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/29 "2009-02-16T17:15:53Z")
> [@Say Hello to the new Speaker of the House](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/say-hello-to-the-new-speaker-of-the-house/19868/19): > > i found that with the Z32 BMC but stock rear brakes that my pedal was too stiff… and without the BMC it was a bit soft, but not as intolerable as having it too stiff. > > doing the rears really made everything perfect. > > i cant comment on what various combinations to the brake bias, i know everyone has their theory. > > i’ve had at least 3 inquiries in the lines this week… dont hesitate my friend. this was on your s14? ---
**Author:** ![blu2fourty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@blu2fourty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blu2fourty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/30 "2009-02-18T16:06:35Z")
my s14 had full z32 brakes all around w/ a working ebrake also w/ z32 master and took out the abs. the car felt awsome but you’ll need good tires and make sure your front end suspension parts are in tact or you’ll lock up (from experience i gave a couple of my tires flat spots then upgraded to bings tc rods and helped a lot) gf s14 has only z32 front brakes and she loves them since she can tail gate people more safer according to her -.- its a bit on the slushy brake pedal feel but its no biggy but if the brake feel bugs you then do the whole brake conversion. in short any s14 i have will have z32 brakes and the old s14 crew all had z32 front brakes so its well worth the upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/31 "2009-02-19T05:47:17Z")
The upgrade is done. BMC, Fronts rears, just gotta fix up the fackin e-brake. Brakes feel coherent. To me at least. I drove my car around our lot just to get a minor feel off the brakes while i broke in the p & r’s. it feels solid. and Bing, jesus fuck does my car feel like a damn rock. lol. The tc rods. WICKED. Need an alignment baaaadly though. Coil overs, and thats it. But back to my question. Is it fine using the rear and front holes on the bmc rather than the two fronts like a lot of people say to do? I figured the z32tt runs it like that…why the fuck shouldn’t I? I just don’t wanna experience any intermitent brakes or whatever. Does not hurt to ask. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/32 "2009-02-19T05:56:09Z")
> [@WNYFBody stolen...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/276): > > this was on your s14? no my S13 has front and rear Z brakes… my S14 doesnt… yet… but it will in a few weeks… because ramming on the brakes HARD is super fun. ---
**Author:** ![prozac3ne2nr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/prozac3ne2nr/32/5581_2.png) [@prozac3ne2nr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/prozac3ne2nr)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/33 "2009-02-19T06:47:21Z")
I have 2 sets of 30MM alum. calipers and rotors. 150 a pair. ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/34 "2009-02-19T06:48:18Z")
i take it you did the bmc. what holes did you use? front and rear? or front and middle? i have been told with or w/o abs makes a difference. as does s13/14… ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/35 "2009-02-19T06:49:04Z")
> [@Hold Em Poker / Tournies / Home Games](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hold-em-poker-tournies-home-games/19790/9): > > I have 2 sets of 30MM alum. calipers and rotors. > 150 a pair. i think people need to actually READ this thread. NO ONE HERE NEEDS PARTS! fuckin thread jacker lol ---
**Author:** ![prozac3ne2nr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/prozac3ne2nr/32/5581_2.png) [@prozac3ne2nr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/prozac3ne2nr)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/36 "2009-02-19T06:56:10Z")
true, It wasn’t my intention. Just spares and thought I’d help. Mods please retract. ---
**Author:** ![BRA\_GANZAAAAAA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bra_ganzaaaaaa/32/5673_2.png) [@BRA\_GANZAAAAAA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BRA_GANZAAAAAA)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/37 "2009-02-19T07:56:08Z")
pedal feels exactly the same on my car with the z brakes and i still have the oem s13 master cylinder. but on the other hand my rear brakes don’t seem to be fully engageing but that most likely is an isolated problem the only downside is that thay lock up really easy cause, i had to loose my abs cause the oringnal hubs had become a lil oversized and the z-disks would seat, so the replacement hubs didn’t have the abs bungs. ---
**Author:** ![forrory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6de8d8/32.png) [@forrory](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/forrory)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116/38 "2009-02-19T15:03:28Z")
I replaced one of my hubs because the spline on one of the studs was stripped. I have abs the hub I used did not. You can lightly tap the abs ring and it will pop off the hub. Then just lightly tap it onto your new hub. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z32-4-piston-caliper-on-s13-front/121116.md?page=1)