# Zero Motorcycles / Harley Livewire (100% Electric Bikes) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 9, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968 "2014-07-09T14:23:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/1 "2014-07-09T14:23:06Z")
I spotted one of their trucks in Amherst today, does someone have one of these? Looks like the nearest dealership is in Rochester or Toronto: [http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/](http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/) ![http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/images/zero-s/2014_zero-s_product-page_overview-image.jpg](http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/images/zero-s/2014_zero-s_product-page_overview-image.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/2 "2014-07-09T14:44:55Z")
" I didn’t even hear him coming" - Driver that hit me. ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/3 "2014-07-09T14:55:21Z")
I was at the Forvm Bike Night the first night they had one and one of these bikes showed up. No plate on it so I don’t know if it was in one of the trailers but it was pretty cool to see nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/4 "2014-07-09T16:48:18Z")
Fucking expensive that’s for sure top of the line sport model costs same as base 1199 Sent from my iPhone 5 ---
**Author:** ![speedy1wrc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/speedy1wrc/32/6792_2.png) [@speedy1wrc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedy1wrc)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/5 "2014-07-09T17:15:53Z")
I just went to their site. Base jumped a bit up to $12,995. With add ons it can jump almost another $5k. ---
**Author:** ![Tbirdsc1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tbirdsc1/32/7487_2.png) [@Tbirdsc1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tbirdsc1)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/6 "2014-07-09T19:26:34Z")
Harley is going the same route too, my dad was just showing me this thing tonight…slated for a 2016 release, mid 400lbs, high 3’s 0-60. He just picked up his 2014 HD Ultra Limited and they gave him this flyer all about the new LiveWire. They are bringing them to a bunch of different cities for test drives, he’s already on the list. ![http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140619082008-harley-davidson-electric-bike-1024x576.jpg](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140619082008-harley-davidson-electric-bike-1024x576.jpg) Have to say it sounds pretty good too… ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/7 "2014-07-09T19:38:28Z")
Came in here looking for this =( [ATTACH=CONFIG]33149[/ATTACH] I think its a cool idea, im game if the cost comes down ---
**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/8 "2014-07-10T05:05:35Z")
Lame. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/9 "2014-07-10T06:23:36Z")
Its great to see this out there, but needs to be cheaper and quicker…a 10sec 1/4 and 40mpg is going to be hard to compete with until gas gets really expensive. ---
**Author:** ![speedy1wrc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/speedy1wrc/32/6792_2.png) [@speedy1wrc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedy1wrc)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/10 "2014-07-10T08:00:34Z")
Yeah, my RJ750 got 54mpg night and day. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/11 "2014-07-10T08:23:24Z")
much, much pricier but very cool: [https://www.mission-motorcycles.com/r](https://www.mission-motorcycles.com/r) I don’t see electric bike replacing gas in the next 10 years. In 20 years I still see the gas powered bike having its place, with the same kind of nostalgia seen in the movie I, Robot. When Tesla puts out a car in the 30-40k range I plan on making the switch… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/12 "2014-07-10T08:25:18Z")
These aren’t being marketed to people looking to save money on gas… ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/13 "2019-01-07T21:34:48Z")
> [@Tbirdsc1](#): > > Harley is going the same route too, my dad was just showing me this thing tonight…slated for a 2016 release, mid 400lbs, high 3’s 0-60. He just picked up his 2014 HD Ultra Limited and they gave him this flyer all about the new LiveWire. Several years later: > [Struggling](https://jalopnik.com/how-harley-davidsons-all-in-bet-on-its-past-crippled-it-1830332227) motorcycle company [Harley-Davidson](https://jalopnik.com/tag/harley-davidson)’s vision for embracing the future is offering a full line of electric motorcycles [by 2022](https://jalopnik.com/the-harley-davidson-livewire-is-the-companys-electric-f-1830266841). The first of these electrified bikes will be the 2019 [LiveWire](https://jalopnik.com/tag/harley-davidson-livewire) and, like all other Harley motorcycles, it’s expensive. Let’s just get it out of the way first. The bike’s **MSRP comes to $29,799.** Oh boy. I kinda want one because it’s ridiculous, but the Zero is half as much with options. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/1/1b9254e8eda5473b2913e4abac78acdd2fb4a6e6.jpeg) ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/4/4ee2d138f40a9288b3bfbedf92cba79424185912.jpeg) > **[The 2019 Harley-Davidson LiveWire Is Far Too Expensive](https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-harley-davidson-livewire-is-far-too-expensive-1831553982)** > > Struggling motorcycle company Harley-Davidson’s vision for embracing the future is offering a full line of electric motorcycles by 2022. The first of these electrified bikes will be the 2019 LiveWire and, like all other Harley motorcycles, it’s... ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/14 "2019-01-29T16:01:28Z")
I’m pretty sure Moto Z carries Zero locally. I’ve seen them a lot recently as I’ve been working the Progressive IMS motorcycle show tour and Zero has a big promo called “discover the ride” where they have an indoor riding loop where you can demo the bikes (they have them limited to 12mph). They run them all damn day on an overnight charge. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/15 "2019-07-17T00:53:51Z")
> When you include the unlimited mileage warranty, connectivity package, and years of free charging, it starts to approach feasible. [https://twitter.com/BCBrownell/status/1149387975559532544](https://twitter.com/BCBrownell/status/1149387975559532544) [https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/svdp0awbgsqm4e1v6kk5.jpg(image larger than 10 MB)](https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/svdp0awbgsqm4e1v6kk5.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/16 "2019-07-17T12:42:23Z")
Zero needs to produce a high performance version, even if just to promote sales of the slower versions they’re selling. > [ > LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)[Formerly ‘cursedcavy’](https://forums.speedlife.net/g/registered_users) > [Jul '14](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/11?u=luc1f3r) > much, much pricier but very cool: > [https://www.mission-motorcycles.com/r](https://www.mission-motorcycles.com/r) > I don’t see electric bike replacing gas in the next 10 years. In 20 years I still see the gas powered bike having its place, with the same kind of nostalgia seen in the movie I, Robot. > When Tesla puts out a car in the 30-40k range I plan on making the switch… Funny to see this post from 5 years ago. The model 3 never really got that cheap, however I seriously considered that over my new truck. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/17 "2019-10-07T19:55:25Z")
Doing predictably bad > **[Harley struggles to fire up new generation of riders with electric bike debut](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-harley-davidson-electricbike-focus/harley-struggles-to-fire-up-new-generation-of-riders-with-electric-bike-debut-idUSKBN1WM10N)** > > Harley-Davidson Inc is betting on electric motorcycles to attract the next gener... ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-motorcycles-harley-livewire-100-electric-bikes/269968/18 "2024-07-13T11:58:23Z")
LiveWire is still a thing… Barely > Harley spun off LiveWire three years later but continues to own nearly 90% of the stock. At its initial investor day, LiveWire projected it would sell more than 7,200 of the battery-powered bikes in 2023. It ended up selling 660. [https://www.wsj.com/business/retail/harley-motorcycles-riders-boomers-451a5d7e](https://www.wsj.com/business/retail/harley-motorcycles-riders-boomers-451a5d7e)