# Zero Tolerance of Legal Threats **URL:** \ **Category:** Network Information\ **Created:** [June 23, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926 "2010-06-23T08:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/41 "2010-06-24T03:15:40Z")
šŸæ ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/42 "2010-06-24T04:17:30Z")
> [@choko](#): > > Somethings you consider threatsā€¦ could be a personal concern of a member. Being the Admin and ā€˜Ownerā€™ of Nyspeed. You should at least take somethings in considerationā€¦ > Certain things you think cant touch you being the owner of a forum, are not always true. Trust me., I owned forums with 50,000+ members. > Sorta like my situationā€¦ I donā€™t give 2 shits about the FaceBook Lawsuit vs my company being posted. It is public and it was on the news. Shit happens. Reading an article > and knowing the truth and facts are two different things. But when you have a member posting other personal information about another member, Thatā€™s not public, > Infant Info ,Address , other info stirring things up. I take that as a threatā€¦ Instead you nor bing respond. Do i really careā€¦ No. > If someone posted personal info on you,family. sure you wouldnā€™t like it. > > Moral of the story isā€¦ The bigger the forum gets, the more issues will arise with volumeā€¦ > > As for my opinion on you Josh. I do not like you, for my reasons. Esp. when you post in your ā€™ underground ā€™ private forum with you and the mods. > Its not nice to bash a member and think your really hiding behind a locked private forum ā€¦ > To be honest, i think your gay, its cool. I think you are and so do many others. > > If i was really butt hurt, i would have walked over to your ā€˜valetā€™ booth when i was eating at Bar Louie like i do 2 times a week. But its not worth it nor are youā€¦ > > So donā€™t let opinions get your butt hurt eitherā€¦ > So if your a man, you wont delete this, as there are no threats. All based on certain facts and some opinions. > Also, Banning me? that would be pointless as you know i was going to speak my mind in this thread . Plus i took a screen shot so you do not change the story/ Have I told you lately that you suck? To comment on the Moderator sectionā€¦ You say you have run these huge boards, Well I do and have for some time now. How many of these boards DO NOT have Moderator and Admin sections? It is a necessary thing, sort of like a virtual staff meeting. As for personal information, it is not our issue that it was posted, it is the person who posts it that is responsible for the content. You should know that too i would think. I do not care if someone posts your name and address along with that of all of your relatives, just as long as they do not attach a kiddie porn image or your social security number and credit report to the thread I am cool with it. Addresses, phone numbers, relatives, and lots of other info are way to easy to dig up online. ---
**Author:** ![choko](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/choko/32/7240_2.png) [@choko](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/choko)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/43 "2010-06-24T04:37:15Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > Have I told you lately that you suck? > To comment on the Moderator sectionā€¦ You say you have run these huge boards, Well I do and have for some time now. How many of these boards DO NOT have Moderator and Admin sections? It is a necessary thing, sort of like a virtual staff meeting. > > As for personal information, it is not our issue that it was posted, it is the person who posts it that is responsible for the content. You should know that too i would think. I do not care if someone posts your name and address along with that of all of your relatives, just as long as they do not attach a kiddie porn image or your social security number and credit report to the thread I am cool with it. Addresses, phone numbers, relatives, and lots of other info are way to easy to dig up online. \<3 you toā€¦ Its not even worth typing an argument. Its a fact. Bing or Josh. should have at least delete posts when a user brings items to there attention when it crosses the lineā€¦ Instead, All Josh & Bing care about is Marketing. Not like it used to be. Thats fine by me, its $. . Fuck, there Ban happy about everything else. booohooo hooo. Josh would ban me if i say, he loves getting Bananas stuck in his butt. But wont take any action on other thingsā€¦ I dont care about the admin sections. But come on, at least know who you all have in there. I think it was just funny, he didnā€™t do anything, but likes cracking jokes in there. It is what it is,. he made this post. So i responded. ---
**Author:** ![BoOsT-HuNgRy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost-hungry/32/5721_2.png) [@BoOsT-HuNgRy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BoOsT-HuNgRy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/44 "2010-06-24T05:09:20Z")
: large soda and m&mā€™s : hmm. . . . . this is interesting. . . . . . . . . . . . . ---
**Author:** ![choko](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/choko/32/7240_2.png) [@choko](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/choko)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/45 "2010-06-24T05:22:09Z")
im done responding as i could see this go on all day. maybe it will get deleted if someone reports this thread to a mod :lol: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/46 "2010-06-24T07:21:25Z")
what happened to the good ole days when u just went to fobwells house and tuned him up !! lol farmer its a joke btw ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/47 "2010-06-24T07:22:50Z")
lol, Choko your nuts. This thread actually wasnā€™t in response to you believe it or not. But we might as well fill everyone else in: 1. Someone made a thread linking to a CNET story about Choko getting into some trouble with Facebook. You can see whatā€™s left of the thread [HERE.](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?155866-Facebook-sues-spammers) You can read the CNET article [HERE](http://www.zdnetasia.com/facebook-sues-men-for-allegedly-phishing-spamming-62060045.htm) 1. Choko assumes this was posted by one of the NYSpeed mods for some reason, and calls to confront himā€¦ Of course, it wasnā€™t. 2. Choko sends me a PM, but I donā€™t see that he has until much later that night: > Josh, Bingā€¦ > > 1st off. Delete this thread ASAP. It has been saved. > > [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.ph](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.ph)ā€¦-sues-spammers > > 2nd. I need your ip log for the 24hr period revolving around 2am the 17th. > > When people make shit up/start posting personal bs on many diff news site. And a suspect problem person is on Nyspeed/ It becomes a big issue with me. > > And yes., 1 of the possible people revolved around this / is a moderatorā€¦ > > Also, ive asked for the thread to be removed. Yet your ā€˜modsā€™ seem to not want toā€¦ > > In the IP files. Do NOT tamper/edit/REMOVE any ips. There are a few possible people in mind who this could be. > e > > Ill give it 48hrs, then ill have my lawyer & me blast off papers to site/admin/owner on record. > Id rather do that then get your box pulled from the rack. Not trying to act hard, but i have enough for a judge to signoff on getting the box. > > Also, who is maximus33? > > -Jeremi 1. Apparently some personal information of his was posted. And since none of the staff have responded to yet, it fuels his assumption that this thread is a conspiracy by the site staff against him. 2. Choko had finds out it was Justin Harmon (not the staff member he thought) who posted his personal stuff under the troll name ā€œfstz06ā€ and also managed to convince him to remove all of the personal posts. 3. At this point I finally see his PM, go to check the thread and see that itā€™s all edited out. I restore the original post because I have no clue whatā€™s going on. I wait a bit to make sure Choko and ā€œfstz06ā€ are done negotiating a truce, then ban the troll name. 4. Since he threatened to ā€œPull NYSpeeds Boxā€ clearly in the above PM, I advised the staff not to communicate with him until I heard from his lawyer. 5. Choko sent PMs to the Mods: > [@choko](#): > > [QUOTE=Freek][QUOTE=choko]can you delete that thread bud? Harmom edited the shit he said. then someone locked it and all the edits removed. apparently youā€™ve already sent josh a PM about this. making comments about legal action. Iā€™m not going to get involved in anything threatening legal action.[/QUOTE] Theres no Threatening. I asked for info, Him being the registered site owner is why i asked & have legal right toā€¦ Nyspeed is small. So thatā€™s why Josh maybe was nervous. If nyspeed was large. He would be used to it with all kinds of issues like many large forums read withā€¦ I found out what i needed. It is pretty messed up. Considering i asked for the thread to be removed. But not 1 Mod, nor admin did. Instead the person who posted it i found. Had them edit everything with XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. But then you have the other person who had him post thatā€¦ Then a mod re edits it and then locks the thread. Still not deleted. Even AFTER Josh read the PM i sent him. So you see where it stands. Never had an issue with you Mike nor Josh. But learn how to tend to actions. Cause if you were in my shoes with people posting personal info. Daughter,Address,Other info Etc. Sure you wouldnt be fine. Plus the fact there 2 are on NYspeed & PMā€™s revolve on NYspeedā€¦ And yes you know them Mike. The lawsuit is more different then you read. Kind of the same situation Josh is in with me Facebook needs info on clients/users - i refused due to privacy policy/rights. Then i get sued. -Jeremi[/QUOTE] If someone posted my personal info Iā€™d want it pulled right away. But you went about things the wrong way. We have zero obligation to provide you with any other members personal information simply because you donā€™t like what they say. If I had seen your personal information posted I would have pulled it. As for the original post, which as everyone can see is clearly a legit news story, if you have a problem with their facts you need to take it up with CNET, not us. We didnā€™t write it. And there is not reason to delete the whole thread just because you donā€™t like the story. ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/48 "2010-06-24T07:39:34Z")
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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/49 "2010-06-24T08:01:08Z")
Youā€™d think a local car forum wouldnā€™t have these kinds of problems. Yikes. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/50 "2010-06-24T08:04:22Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > Youā€™d think a local car forum wouldnā€™t have these kinds of problems. Yikes. You should see what the base of the iceberg looks like. ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/51 "2010-06-24T08:07:17Z")
For the record ā€¦ Josh is not ban happy at all. Iā€™m WAYYYY more ban happy than he is lol. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/52 "2010-06-24T11:55:37Z")
true story ^ lol ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/53 "2010-06-24T12:00:05Z")
are there any actual grounds in which to bring legal actions onto a forum? it just sounds foolish ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/54 "2010-06-24T12:12:08Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > are there any actual grounds in which to bring legal actions onto a forum? it just sounds foolish While all law can be interpreted differently, for the most part the answer is no. Look up section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/55 "2010-06-24T12:17:04Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > are there any actual grounds in which to bring legal actions onto a forum? it just sounds foolish Yes, say i were to create a forum that looked exactly like another forums with a domain name say a letter off. Then i used the login page to sniff password information. That would be illegal. If I were to directly name this board FORD Forums I would be violating trademark lawas and would expect Ford to have their way with me in court. Posting that say ā€œBing is a convicted Child Molesterā€ and spreading false pretenses without factual basis would be grounds for a lawsuit against me personally, not against the moderators, admins, sponsors or other affiliates. Posting that I think people who threaten to sue forums are faggot Rtards is not however grounds to sue for anything. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/56 "2010-06-24T12:22:19Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > Yes, say i were to create a forum that looked exactly like another forums with a domain name say a letter off. Then i used the login page to sniff password information. That would be illegal. You sure? ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/57 "2010-06-24T12:29:52Z")
The 1st example Mike cited has nothing to do with the instances addressed by this thread. ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/58 "2010-06-24T13:56:32Z")
lol@this. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/59 "2010-06-24T13:57:36Z")
srsly ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zero-tolerance-of-legal-threats/156926/60 "2010-06-24T14:01:34Z")
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