# ZL1 running at track

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 12, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023 "2004-12-12T07:15:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/1 "2004-12-12T07:15:28Z")

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this is a Phase III ZL1 from berger…its 600hp stock with 4.10’s…and this thing is said to have only a comp. tune and slicks…

[http://www.brucefanger.com/camarovideo.mpeg](http://www.brucefanger.com/camarovideo.mpeg)

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/2 "2004-12-12T08:38:42Z")

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wow,just wow

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/3 "2004-12-12T10:37:16Z")

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I thought all ZL1’s had the SS rear spoiler

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/4 "2004-12-12T19:16:58Z")

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idk…i think they did that soo it would look liek the first gen camaros…the first gen’s had those ones that went across the trunk and quarter…

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**Author:** ![tc166](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/848f3c/32.png) [@tc166](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tc166)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/5 "2004-12-12T22:39:04Z")

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so when you buying a zl1 justin?

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**Author:** ![90bLkGsX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/e95f7d/32.png) [@90bLkGsX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/90bLkGsX)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/6 "2004-12-12T22:46:11Z")

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yea…schmidtty if you buy a zl1, do me a fave and take out a life insurance policy for a lot of money and make sure you give me EVERYTHING

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/7 "2004-12-12T23:42:34Z")

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> [@tc166](#):
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> so when you buying a zl1 justin?

whenever he comes across $90,000

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/8 "2004-12-13T00:08:15Z")

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that looks like the car that was built to race the 429 boss cobra. if it is its a carbed car, then they put on the new 98 and up front end. that car can be found in the older issues of car and driver

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/9 "2004-12-13T04:05:23Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> that looks like the car that was built to race the 429 boss cobra. if it is its a carbed car, then they put on the new 98 and up front end. that car can be found in the older issues of car and driver

its a 427 ls1…motor is like based of the c5-R motor…

and ya blue…i wish i had 90k to buy that…hahha…man id live in that car

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/10 "2004-12-13T04:57:02Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> that looks like the car that was built to race the 429 boss cobra. if it is its a carbed car, then they put on the new 98 and up front end. that car can be found in the older issues of car and driver

thats a LS1 427,not john mosses car!

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/11 "2004-12-13T09:13:00Z")

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> [@95greenZ](#):
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> its a 427 ls1…motor is like based of the c5-R motor…
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> and ya blue…i wish i had 90k to buy that…hahha…man id live in that car

I can’t remember which magazine it was, but pretty much between the retro paint job, and all of the motor and suspension work, if you wanted to do it yourself, it came out to be about $71,000, thats with purchasing a Camaro too. About $9500 of that came out to be labor charges, and the rest was all profit… which wasn’t a huge margin.

But all you need is 50 cars to be considered production, they made 69 of them. So right now, the Berger ZL1 Phase III, is considered to be the fastest production car of all time.

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/12 "2004-12-13T09:35:03Z")

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ya…if i somehow could…id buy one!!!

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/13 "2004-12-13T09:35:54Z")

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> [@95greenZ](#):
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> ya…if i somehow could…id buy one!!!

I dont think you could, considering they all have homes

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/14 "2004-12-13T09:59:08Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> I dont think you could, considering they all have homes

ya…but someone will sell one sometime…or even get a berger camaro phase I would be nice

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**Author:** ![BlackZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackz28/32/5932_2.png) [@BlackZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlackZ28)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/15 "2004-12-13T10:03:20Z")

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i’ve seen 1 berger SS and i think 3 other true ZL1 camaros at the 03 GM nationals. lots of GMMG SSs too. the ZL1s are badass!!!

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/16 "2004-12-13T10:17:53Z")

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> [@95greenZ](#):
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> ya…but someone will sell one sometime…or even get a berger camaro phase I would be nice

eh, the phase I’s imo are a waste… just a sticker package, with an intake and exhaust

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**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/17 "2004-12-13T12:57:24Z")

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that was not an orginal zl1 car…that one was an automatic

berger/gmmg only made 1 automatic zl1 car and it was gunmetal!

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/18 "2004-12-13T13:03:05Z")

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that still looks like Jon Moss ride

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**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/19 "2004-12-13T19:29:37Z")

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> [@2FNFast](#):
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> that was not an orginal zl1 car…that one was an automatic
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> berger/gmmg only made 1 automatic zl1 car and it was gunmetal!

couldve been converted

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**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zl1-running-at-track/171023/20 "2004-12-13T20:30:22Z")

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> [@Blue4](#):
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> couldve been converted

zl1 came with the hockey stick side stripes

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