Are u friends with the Clintons?

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Um, No. Try again. Honestly, if you do a little research, its not hard to find. Also, by the way, its trafficKer. Just an FYI for those of us, like you, that are less fortunate.

I believe he sold some secrets to the Chinese as well.

He sold me the secret recipe to Bush’s Baked Beans.

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Haha good one with the baked beans…

Recent interview with Billy.

last time I checked, a typo on the internet wasn’t the end of the world. I don’t know where you decided you were the authority on intelligence lately.

But if that’s all you have is to point out typos on an internet forum… you may need to evaluate some things in your life. I also cannot think of one person Clinton pardonned who was not human garbage.

Patty Hearst?

Not to mention, he pardoned a lot of people who were doing time for possession of pot.

Also, Bush has pardoned quite a few people convicted of the same shit Clinton’s pardons were used for.

Not defending either side, but last time I checked, Bush nor anyone he was connected with, recieved any money for said pardon

Last time I checked, robbing a bank was deserving of jail time

Wee woo wee woo…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber/content/images/2005/10/03/grammar_police_car_203x152.jpg

Clinton’s Pardons:
Pardons
Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States)
Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
Douglas Chrles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
Mary Louise Campbell
Eloida Candelaria
Dennis Sobrevinas Capili
Donna Denise Chambers
Douglas Eugene Chapman
Ronald Keith Chapman
Francisco Larois Chavez
Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
Roger Clinton, Jr. (half-brother of President Bill Clinton)
Stuart Harris Cohn
David Marc Cooper
Ernest Harley Cox Jr.
John F. Cross Jr.
Reickey Lee Cunningham
Richard Anthony De Labio
John Deutch
Richard Douglas
Edward Reynolds Downe
Marvin Dean Dudley
Larry Lee Duncan
Robert Clinton Fain
Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
Alvarez Ferrouillet
William Dennis Fugazy
Lloyd Reid George
Louis Goldstein
Rubye Lee Gordon
Pincus Green
Robert Ivey Hamner
Samuel Price Handley
Woodie Randolph Handley
Jay Houston Harmon
Rick Hendrick
John Hummingson
David S. Herdlinger
Debi Rae Huckleberry
Donald Ray James
Stanley Pruet Jobe
Ruben H. Johnson
Linda Jones
James Howard Lake
June Louise Lewis
Salim Bonnor Lewis
John Leighton Lodwick
Hildebrando Lopez
Jose Julio Luaces
James Timothy Maness
James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
John Robert Martin
Frank Ayala Martinez
Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
John Francis McCormick
Susan H. McDougal
Howard Mechanic
Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
Samuel Loring Morison
Charles Wilfred Morgan III
Richard Anthony Nazzaro
Charlene Ann Nosenko
Vernon Raymond Obermeier
Miguelina Ogalde
David C. Owen
Robert W. Palmer
Kelli Anne Perhosky
Richard H. Pezzopane
Orville Rex Phillips
Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
Norman Lyle Prouse
Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.
Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
Charles D. Ravenel
William Clyde Ray
Alfredo Luna Regalado
Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
Marc Rich - tax evasion fugitive
Howard Winfield Riddle
Richard Wilson Riley Jr.
Samuel Lee Robbins
Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
Michael James Rogers
Anna Louise Ross
Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
Gerald Glen Rust
Jerri Ann Rust
Bettye June Rutherford
Gregory Lee Sands
Adolph Schwimmer
Albert A. Seretti Jr.
Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
Dennis Joseph Smith
Gerald Owen Smith
Stephen A. Smith
Jimmie Lee Speake
Charles Bernard Stewart
Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
Richard Lee Tannehill
Nicholas C. Tenaglia
Gary Allen Thomas
Larry Weldon Todd
Olga C. Trevino
Ignatious Vamvouklis
Patricia A. Van De Weerd
Christopher V. Wade
Bill Wayne Warmath
Jack Kenneth Watson
Donna Lynn Webb
Donald William Wells
Robert H. Wendt
Jack L. Williams
Kavin Arthur Williams
Robert Michael Williams
Jimmie Lee Wilson
Thelma Louise Wingate
Mitchell Couey Wood
Warren Stannard Wood
Dewey Worthey
Rick Allen Yale
Joseph A. Yasak
William Stanley Yingling
Phillip David Young
Keith Sanders
Darren Muci
John Scott (not a full pardon)

George H.W. Bush’s
Joe llen Deckert (1979 Misprision of felony (relating to illegal firearms sales))
Donald Alvin Dibble III (1978 Illegal possession of firearm with obliterated serial number)
Leo Friedman (1969 Mail embezzlement)
Armand Hammer (1976 Making campaign contribution in name of another (misdemeanor))
Charles Arnold Jacobs (1979 Submission of false income tax return)
Mary Lou Peet (1978 Fraudulent transfer of property in contemplation of bankruptcy)
Robert Gary Rice (1973 Submitting false statements to Federal Housing Administration)
Billy Wayne Rodgers (1973 Transporting firearm in foreign commerce, Insubordination in violation of Article 91, Uniform Code of Military Justice)
Raymond Joseph Shovelski (1974 Conspiracy to accept kickbacks on Government contracts)

your GHWB list is shit.

August 14, 1989

[edit] Pardoned

* Joe llen Deckert (1979 Misprision of felony (relating to illegal firearms sales))
* Donald Alvin Dibble III (1978 Illegal possession of firearm with obliterated serial number)
* Leo Friedman (1969 Mail embezzlement)
* Armand Hammer (1976 Making campaign contribution in name of another (misdemeanor))
* Charles Arnold Jacobs (1979 Submission of false income tax return)
* Mary Lou Peet (1978 Fraudulent transfer of property in contemplation of bankruptcy)
* Robert Gary Rice (1973 Submitting false statements to Federal Housing Administration)
* Billy Wayne Rodgers (1973 Transporting firearm in foreign commerce, Insubordination in violation of Article 91, Uniform Code of Military Justice)
* Raymond Joseph Shovelski (1974 Conspiracy to accept kickbacks on Government contracts)

[edit] Commutation

* Douglas Bruce Fenimore (1981 Receiving and concealing stolen property, interstate transportation of stolen property, and bank robbery)

[edit] July 18, 1990

[edit] Pardoned

* Orlando Bosch
     1. (1968 convicted for taking part in a bazooka attack on a Havana-bound Polish freighter docked at the Port of Miami)[1]
     2. (1974 violating parole)

[edit] March 5, 1991

[edit] Pardoned

* Dorothy Christina Damush (1982 Conspiracy to transport stolen goods in interstate commerce)
* David Feld (1980 Interference with agent of National Labor Relations Board (misdemeanor))
* Mark Christopher Felling (1980 Theft of mail by postal employee)
* Howard William Fitzsimmons (1974 Embezzlement of Government property)
* Garth Stuart Hancock (1959 Conspiracy to violate Commodity Credit Regulations)
* Charles Walker Harrison (1966 Unlawful possession of narcotics without having paid transfer tax)
* Geary Travis Holstead (1978 Theft of mail by postal employee)
* Michael Dennis Larsen (1977 Bank embezzlement)
* Mark Allen Nelson (1975 Involuntary manslaughter in violation of Article 119, UCMJ)
* Robert Anthony Pagnanelli (1980 Conspiracy to defraud United States and mail fraud)
* William George Spurlock (1953 Interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicle)
* Harold Bennett Stewart (1963 Theft of Government property)
* Bernice Lena Telgemeier (1980 Attempted income tax evasion)
* Julius Henry Telgemeier (1980 Attempted income tax evasion)
* William Newton Tunnell, Jr. (1977 Bank embezzlement)
* Robert Lee Warner (1979 Obstruction of mail)
* James Alexander Womack (1978 Possession of stolen mail)

[edit] July 5, 1991

[edit] Pardoned

* Joseph Berger (1959 Transporting gambling devices within a special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States)
* Miles Oakley Bidwell (1962 Filing false statement)
* Edward Meredith Dawsey (1981 Making false statements to the Office of Workmen's Compensation Programs)
* Leonard Gilmor (1975 Mail fraud and aiding and abetting)
* Lewis Isador Goltz (1976 Sale of firearms to out-of-state resident, failure to register firearms, failure to make appropriate entry in firearm acquisition disposition records)
* Wayne Stanley LaTour (1980 Dealing in firearms without a license)
* Thomas Leoutsakos (1968 Sale of methamphetamine (misdemeanor))
* Mary Mahoney Longwell (1976 Embezzlement of bank funds)
* Barbara Cecil Livenia Chapman Portwood (1962 Forgery)
* Laurie Virginia Rossetti (1976 Engaging in the conduct of an illegal gambling business)
* Myra Soble (1957 Conspiracy to receive and obtain national defense information and transmit same to foreign government)
* Rudolph Hartsel Young (1960 Embezzlement of postal funds and falsification of postal records)

[edit] December 24, 1992

[edit] Pardoned

* Caspar W. Weinberger (1988 Several counts of perjury, See Iran-Contra Affair)
* Elliott Abrams (1988 Two counts of unlawfully withholding information. See Iran-Contra Affair)
* Duane R. Clarridge (1991 Seven counts of perjury and false statements, See Iran-Contra Affair)
* Alan D. Fiers (1991 Two misdemeanor counts of withholding information from the Congress, See Iran-Contra Affair)
* Clair George
     1. (1991 Ten counts of perjury, false statements and obstruction)
     2. (1992 two felony charges of false statements and perjury before Congress — see Iran-Contra Affair)
* Robert C. McFarlane (1988 See Iran-Contra Affair)
* Joseph Bear, Jr. (1964 Burglary on Indian Reservation)
* Thomas Burley Berry (1980 Detaining and destroying mail)
* Robert William Dailey, Sr. (1943 Failure to report for induction into the military in violation of the Selective Training and Service Act of 1940)
* Paul Karsten Fauteck
     1. (1950 Interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicle)
     2. (1955 Conspiracy to smuggle alien into United States and attempting to conceal alien)
     3. (1955 Transporting false securities in interstate commerce)
     4. (1954 Absent without leave from Army and wrongful disposition of government property)
     5. (1955 Absent without leave)
* Dale Leonard Fix (1944 Failure to report for military duty in violation of Selective Service Act of 1940)
* Francene Geiger (1980 Bank embezzlement)
* Ivan Leon Gentry (1946 Transporting stolen motor vehicle in interstate commerce)
* Joseph Gordon Haynie, Jr. (1973 Misapplication of bank funds)
* Henry Levin (1973 Violation of Customs regulations)
* Guillermo Medrano Moreno
     1. (1961 Failure to register as narcotics user)
     2. (1967 Illegal importation and sale of heroin)
* Frank T. Passini, III (1978 Possession and sale of 5,000 grams of marijuana and wrongful possession of 50 grams of marijuana in violation of Article 134, Uniform Code of Military Justice)
* Donald Rightmire (1984 Misprision of a felony)
* Edwin Roberts (1947 Carrying on the business of a distiller, possessing an unregistered whiskey still, and making and fermenting mash fit for distillation)
* Patrick James Sheehan (1981 Misapplication of bank funds)
* Hildred Earl Spates (1971 Theft of government property)
* Alfredo Encinas Villarreal (1971 Theft of mail by postal employee)
* Jack Alvin Walker (1956 Failure to report for military duty in violation of Selective Service Act of 1950)
* Carl Frank Westminster, Jr. (1977 Possession, sale, and transfer of controlled substance in violation of Article 92, Uniform Code of Military Justice)

[edit] January 15, 1993

[edit] Commutation

* Joseph Occhipinti (1991 Conspiracy to violate civil rights, deprivation of rights under color of law (misdemeanor), and making false statement)

[edit] January 18, 1993

[edit] Pardoned

* Robert Edward Leigh Barnhill (1980 Bid rigging in violation of Sherman Antitrust Act)
* George Edward Clements, III (1987 Knowingly making false declarations before grand jury)
* Edwin L. Cox, Jr. (1988 Bank fraud)
* Lloyd Earl Davis (1981 Making false entries in bank records)
* James Lewis Donawho (1979 Making false statement to government agency)
* John Stinson Howell, III (1979 Income tax evasion)
* Charles Elvin Huffman (1955 Larceny on a government reservation)
* Thomas Arthur Kardashian (1974 Offering gratuities to public officials)
* Frederick Irwin Lorber (1962 Obtaining marijuana without paying transfer tax)
* Richard Norris Ware (1973 Aiding and abetting bank embezzlement (misdemeanor))
* Albert Teyechea Williams (1980 Conspiracy to misapply bank funds)
* Clyde Henry Umphenour, Jr. (1956 & 1961 Two counts Interstate transportation of forged securities)

[edit] Commutation

* Aslam P. Adam (1985 Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute heroin, importation of heroin, and use of mail in committing felony)

And how many of them do you know, or know personally? Any? It is awful easy to cast stones when you know absolutely nothing about the individual situations of each person.

Sure, guys like Marc Rich really make you wonder, but you don’t know the personal stories of each and every person there to sit and say that they are ALL human garbage.

shaler state your source, mine was from wikipedia

i have the same source you do. you only copied the first paragraph, which is constituted of ONLY the people GHWB pardoned on ONE DAY.

oops

Well I think there is corruption with both, and it is clearly good to know people in high places. Clinton had many more mysterious deaths surrounding him. Bush just doesn’t make sense to me.

It seems like Clinton’s plan was…get rich and powerful, and make the CIA, secret service, and FBI take care of me for the rest of my days on earth. Bush’s plan is something like…finish what Daddy didn’t, act like a Conservative, but make government huge anyway.

Too bad Bush won’t pardon the border patrol guys who shot the mexican drug dealer.