04s will be a drop off from the 05 because its a totally different bike, aside from the plastic. the bike is 10lbs lighter and has a completly new, compact motor, new aluminum frame and swingarm…trust me, if someone is in the market for a YZ125, the 05+ is a big upgrade from the 04. 2400 is a good price for an 05. im confident that mine is just as nice/tight as any alum frame YZ125 on the used market right now…i can work slightly on the price but not much. the bike is worth it and speaks for itself. its kick start, no need for electric, a 125 fires so easy, you could probly fire it up with your hand pushing the kick lever. you are right, doesnt hurt to ask, but just telling you my reasoning and that cycle trader doesnt show anything less than 2800 within 350 miles (05).