Not trying to bust your balls but the wheels are GRAY ! look at the the pics they look gray THATS WHY I SOPKE TO YOU ON THE PHONE i told you they look GRAY in the pics you said they are black . they are not faded from the sun THEY ARE GRAY . all you had to do was tell me you are color blind . you try to sell those wheels on Ebay with the Ad you have listed you will 100% get bad feedback . Move on