Yeah, im in rochester but i did a little looking on the internet and found that same amp brand new for 163. Any negotiates available? Just found this one http://shopper.cnet.com/car-amplifiers/kenwood-excelon-kac-x812d/4014-6726_9-31864948.html for 150 but its used. Ill pay a tad bit more for a nyspeeder but I dunno if ill pay 200.