That happens when bond yields = 0?
Can/will the price of bonds still go up? Interesting thought I’ve been having I think.
Input?
Obama just got on TV with all kinds of fanfare and he said… NOTHING. Fail.
easy way to put it…
no job growth = no credit growth = no GDP growth = lower interest rates = higher bond prices
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saw that too… whats new? just talks in circles
But I don’t understand the higher bond prices part. If they are yielding 0 or negative why would anyone invest in them? And if nobody is investing in them why would the price go up?
you have to look at the long end… 10 years or longer
I know the 10+ year yields still have room. I watch the above link fairly closely to try and see trends etc…
I think I posted this on here before, maybe not. Kinda frazzled lately. LOL
I don’t believe in the “recovery” for many reasons, but one is because the money hasn’t moved out of bonds it seems.
Yea neither do i but those are the ones we work with the 10, 20 and 30 yr bonds
Has anyone had thoughts like me…that maybe they are causing this media hype about our “credit rating” for a reason? I personally believe they have needed to raise the interest rates for some time to show support for our currency. With this 1T cut they agreed to we get downgraded, rates are forced up and The Bernank and Fed aren’t the bad guy because Moody’s etc… did this to us? Just a tin foil moment. Carry on. 
We are down to $29 billion in the bank. I believe Apple still has their $76 billion.
Jeebus, I just happend to notice a lot of red on my igoogle. -460 points? What the flock tanked the stock market today?
check the front page of yahoo or google finance, its a lot of things. im hoping to buy some more ford at rock bottom prices in the next however long this fallout takes
The market is still worried about the debt crisis here in the US and over in Europe too. Also, the job situation remains stagnant.
Government raising the debt ceiling= U.S. dollar worth less. It will rebound, but people are freaking out.
I was too busy at work to daytrade the past week or 2 in the amazing bear momentum. 8(
At this point the market is way out of balance and I’ll look to short some ETF’s on a rally of substance. Too late to get short and too much momentum to buy long IMO.
Could this be due to Ron Paul coming to East Aurora??? LOL
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PS. We just killed it with an options play netting something like 200%. Still doing well on stocks as well. TradersBase…check it out! 8)
Bear momentum is easier to ride, trends a bit more clean and moves a shit-ton faster than a bull market. That said…don’t EVER confuse success in a bull market for skills. Buy & hold is risky biz if you ask me.
Don’t you worry boys… just ride that train back up later… fucking speculation.
EPIC POWNAGE! The Bernank is a jackass.
Killed it on my speculative TVIX hedge today to offset losses on my longs. Little bit goes a long way with that one. Started shorting FAZ at the end of the day on the run up since I don’t buy the long term bear trend, and in the long run leveraged ETF’s all go to 0.
I’m waiting for a relief rally (which seems forthcoming) to find a proper short entry on the paper indices via ETF. I’ve been preaching further deflation and debt unwinding for a bit now. Commodities tanking, stocks tanking and currency sharply rising is leading me down one path of opinion. Further DEFLATION is most likely. The equities are at light support. The Dollar is at heavy resistance. There is a bullish case there, but the momentum and volume on the equity tank is pretty damn strong. JMHO of course.
The x-factor is when you call deflation perfectly and then Helicopter Ben steps in and makes it rain. It’s like a casino, there’s definitely money to be made but when you’re betting against the house you get some things you didn’t account for.
In the meantime, I moved 5k of the cash I pulled out of the market and was sitting on into I-bonds at the end of last month. 4.8% interest and backed by the US Treasury. Best sure thing out there right now.
So I decided to have a super awesome Thursday night, and try to understand why our economy is in the craper. Basically I ended up watching a bunch of Peter Schiff videos. I am thoroughly depressed right now. Are we that fucked?