Thanks krant for some real info. I liked the idea of having an inexpensive truck around that could tow if I wanted to use it. Sounds like this thing doesnt tow that great though. Im going to drive it at lunch and see if I like it. Gas isnt a huge concern, my audi gets about 18 in the city. I would guess the ram would get around 13. 5 mpg would not really make much difference in my wallet driving my 5 miles to work each day.