Alt Fuel/Engines: Ceramic Powered

http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/15/technology/disruptors_eestor.biz2/index.htm

The Innovation: A ceramic power source for electric cars that could blow away the combustion engine
The Disrupted: Oil companies and carmakers that don’t climb aboard

Forget hybrids and hydrogen-powered vehicles. EEStor, a stealth company in Cedar Park, Texas, is working on an “energy storage” device that could finally give the internal combustion engine a run for its money – and begin saving us from our oil addiction. “To call it a battery discredits it,” says Ian Clifford, the CEO of Toronto-based electric car company Feel Good Cars, which plans to incorporate EEStor’s technology in vehicles by 2008.

EEStor’s device is not technically a battery because no chemicals are involved. In fact, it contains no hazardous materials whatsoever. Yet it acts like a battery in that it stores electricity. If it works as it’s supposed to, it will charge up in five minutes and provide enough energy to drive 500 miles on about $9 worth of electricity. At today’s gas prices, covering that distance can cost $60 or more; the EEStor device would power a car for the equivalent of about 45 cents a gallon.

And we mean power a car. “A four-passenger sedan will drive like a Ferrari,” Clifford predicts. In contrast, his first electric car, the Zenn, which debuted in August and is powered by a more conventional battery, can’t go much faster than a moped and takes hours to charge.

The cost of the engine itself depends on how much energy it can store; an EEStor-powered engine with a range roughly equivalent to that of a gasoline-powered car would cost about $5,200. That’s a slight premium over the cost of the gas engine and the other parts the device would replace – the gas tank, exhaust system, and drivetrain. But getting rid of the need to buy gas should more than make up for the extra cost of an EEStor-powered car.

EEStor is tight-lipped about its device and how it manages to pack such a punch. According to a patent issued in April, the device is made of a ceramic powder coated with aluminum oxide and glass. A bank of these ceramic batteries could be used at “electrical energy stations” where people on the road could charge up.

EEStor is backed by VC firm Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, and the company’s founders are engineers Richard Weir and Carl Nelson. CEO Weir, a former IBM-er, won’t comment, but his son, Tom, an EEStor VP, acknowledges, “That is pretty much why we are here today, to compete with the internal combustion engine.” He also hints that his engine technology is not just for the small passenger vehicles that Clifford is aiming at, but could easily replace the 300-horsepower brutes in today’s SUVs. That would make it appealing to automakers like GM (Charts) and Ford (Charts), who are seeing sales of their gas-guzzling SUVs and pickup trucks begin to tank because of exorbitant fuel prices.

And we mean power a car. “A four-passenger sedan will drive like a Ferrari,”

that right there proves to me that hes hyping his product to gain investments … this technology will be a failure …

Will only be a faliure if the government makes it.

no, it will be a failure without the government making it into one

the guys a crackpot, and hes sugarcoating his invention to what he WISHES it will do, not what he can MAKE it do

why is everyone so skeptical?

One of the reason…

The article says he debuted his first alternate powered vehicle in August (ie, last month), that “can’t go much faster than a moped and takes hours to charge.” And now within a months time he’s come up with a technology that will not only go 500 miles on $6, but will also drive like a Ferrari? I don’t buy it.

Though, I will be more than happy to eat my own words if this goes into production.

Because when people make statements like, “A four-passenger sedan will drive like a Ferrari” it screams scam more than the emails about “grow you junk 8 inches overnight” or “Angelina naked”.

A much better article, that presents more than just the investor portfolio side of the story (but when has CNN ever presented more than one side of a story?)

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1141599010468&call_pageid=970599109774&col=Columnist971715454851

That’s awesome

That’s not what it said at all.

It said the auto manufacturer that is looking to use this engine technology released it’s last slow-ped car last month. R-E-A-D

:lol:

What you or I or others on this forum might know what a ferrari drives like…the remaining 99.9% of the world thinks that means “fast”

PS - Nude pictures of Angelina are available from a variety of websites

Yeah, but when you get spam about them, they’re not legit, just like when some guy who made a car that goes slower than a moped says his next 4 door will go like a Ferrari.

I always get scared when people who are pushing cutting edge techology start making huge claims with nothing to back it up. To me the next logical step would be for them to produce something similar to the Prius in size/performance and release that. Do that and then if they said their next car will have Ferrari like performance I might be willing to bite.

Eh, whatever. Like Silver said, I’d be happy to be wrong on this one. My BS detector is just going off the chart when I look at what they have, and what they think they will have.

Learn to read
-edited for further clarity to help with Jay’s reading problems :cjerk: -

:word: it also says the first car wasn’t even powered by the same type of “battery”, but a more conventional one

Same to you. Did you read the Toronto Star article? The one with the actual opposing views?

Yes, I did. It doesn’t change the fact that what you said was not in EITHER article

:hay:

Walter ftw on this one, the Toronto guys pumped out that slow-ped, not the guy who this article is about.

Terrible english, yes, but I just woke up and really don’t care.

The energy exchange does not make sense.

The laws of physics state than energy is not lost or gained it just changes form.

300 horsepower is approximately 223 kilowatt/hr.

To charge the car in 5 minutes that is capable of producing 300 horsepower:

The charging station would need to put out 2.6 megawatt/hr of electrical power assuming 100 percent efficency.

To put this into comparison electrical powerplants produce around 2 megawatt hours.

You would need your own decent sized powerplant to charge the battery.

Needless to say you might have problems plugging the car into the wall and driving away.

^^^ pw3nd

I don’t think they ever said WHERE you charge it. :lol:

“Just drive on down to the Falls, wait in line to plug your car in and you’re good to go.”