OP asked if it was worth spending the money to build new. My point is that you can build a $250k house in this area and the quality/selection compared to the plethora of homes already on the market for significantly less money, that can be easily and relatively cheap to upgrade, is in fact not worth it.
thats exactly what my home inspector said when we were BSing about some of the shit Ryan homes we had unknowingly looked at but could tell they were Ryan when we got inside
on a side note a co-worker is building a Ryan in wheatfield after i continuously warned him…i cant wait to say TOLD YA SO
I believe that was the developer/contractor that built a ton of homes in the 80-90s? Much like current subdivisions where all the houses would look the same and people could pick interior differences and stuff like that. I believe they are smaller now and often times they were like a split level or tri-level type home.
I could be off a bit, but that is the general idea of a Ryan home.
I purchased the 5-10 year old home in an area where they still had a couple new lots to fill. It got me a good price on a newer house and I can upgrade whatever I want without having to deal with some shitty closed layout plan with lots of little rooms there were so popular in the past.
If you do build new try to get as little as possible with exceptions for things that are hard to add later. It’s utterly retarded to finance the A/C unit and granite counters over 30 years. (and to pay property taxes on them)
A local builder that builds absolute HACK-SHIT houses and passes them off as fancy middle-income development homes…and he was sued because of it in a class-action suit once, then changed his business name and did the same thing for a few years before switching back to “RYAN”…
and as B.E.D. said Marrano is a competitor…and equally as shitty.
Fischione is another name that comes to mind…two brothers…the houses are all BEAUTIFUL, and well-built…EXCEPT for their foundations…every foundation they have is cracked horribly and leak like hell. They got out of the business because of all the foundations claims.
My parent’s house was done by Piotrowski…and actually, it has been a great house. They’ve been there since '97 and the only issue so far was the rear-side of the roof over the garage curled up bad, but they got a good chunk of it paid for under the roofing warranty, so no real quams(sp?) there.
I’ve also noticed that everybody who has a builder home talks crap about people with homes built by other builders. Once they sell their house their builder was crap also.
We built our house in 2003. It was exciting and tiring at the same time. Basically I didnt want to have to spend the time fixing other peoples crap. Instead Ive spent the last 9 years landscaping, finishing part of the basement, landscaping, painting, landscaping, paving the driveway, landscaping, building a deck, landscaping.
Would I do it again, probably. We got the house we wanted on the land we liked and could afford.
And yes, Ryan makes the biggest pile of shit homes. And really, if you look at what you get, or dont get, they arent any cheaper than using a QUALITY, but smaller, builder like we did. I have yet to replace or upgrade any of the standard products that came with our home. Hell when we picked out carpet there wasnt an upgrade on the carpet or pad, we have Anderson windows, name brand non contractor grade fixtures, doors etc.
Friends of ours are building a new house in Tuscon AZ. She was telling me that the base cabinets actually don’t come with hardware, and you have to shell out 700 dollars for basic home depot grade hardware to open your cabinets with. Absolutely everything is an upgrade, so that cheap DR Horton house doesn’t end up being so cheap after all.
I think you are much better off buying a house a few years old, this is true for Buffalo, but very very true for Arizona.
My friend used Alliance Homes and they made him pay extra for electric garage door openers!!! Who the fuck builds a $300,000+ home and does not want openers???
“You didn’t tell us you wanted those”
Just be careful not to get nickel and dimed by a general contractor. This is how they profit.
I thought most didn’t include garage door openers. again, the point is give the base home so you don’t finance a garage door opener for 30 years and pay taxes on it forever.
I don’t know, I can’t imagine building a $300,000 home in WNY without openers. Whatever.
What do you mean pay taxes on it forever? Because they would add value to your assessment?
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