IROC is 95% done, 1st Startup VID plus NEW pix*

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Maybe the humpers will see this thread and finally understand what a quality cage looks like.

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Since you dont know anything about the topic, I’ll try to help you out. At first glace, it appears from that picture that the rear bars are closer together than I would prefer - which doesnt provide as much stability to the cage as wider bars and X bracing will accomplish. Otherwise it appears to be pretty good from what I see, as there are many people out there making good cages and I know Oroc likes quality work. You need both skill and a willingness to use it in order to pull off a great job. Many people display one without the other.

Unfortunately, those on here that have no experience in chassis prep or racing (you) dont realize that a pretty weld is not what makes a cage excellent. Design, materials and implementation are what give the car safety and support. For example, I especially recommend those diagonal support bars below the harness bar because they provide alot of lateral support. Its even better if you tie them into a number 1 bar at the base of the main hoop.

To better evaluate a cage next time, try asking yourself:

How well does it tie into the existing suspension?
How much time and effort were dedicated to proper placement and understanding of the physics at work on each bar in the event of an accident or under hard acceleration?
Are there too many bends in the bar or are they placed in akward positions?
Is the tubing ERW or DOM?
Is a car going to see alot of street driving or racing under harsh conditions which would make mild steel a much better choice than chromoly?

There is so much more than meets the untrained (you) eye.

Oroc, Im sorry for the quick thread hijack, I just hate unintelligent humpers. I cant wait to see your car out again :eekdance: Im still pissed at myself about passing on that 86 iroc, and you and dan marvins car dont help :frowning: