other then captianfalco and gearhead and few few others, I dont think a butler forum would be a swell idea as fars as true care enthusiast go. Mostly im guessing it would be fanboys/ricers discussions on how to a) get more people to look at your lowered 19?? watchmacallit at the mall or b) how to get people to look at you at eat n park c( how to score crack
off topic would be chalkful of info like how to shake your baby, or how to build a meth lab in your own basement