lol i like the new york posts counter statement to al sharpton
Nice
Here’s the full statement by Col Allan, editor-in-chief of the Post:
“The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event, to wit the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut. It broadly mocks Washington’s efforts to revive the economy. Again, Al Sharpton reveals himself as nothing more than a publicity opportunist.”
:bigclap:
Are you really that much of a fucking pain in the ass that you don’t understand the difference between perpetuating a LONG STANDING racial attack against black people and calling George Bush a monkey? Really?
That said, I didn’t see racism in the cartoon…however the NY Post did a piss poor job of handling the situation and only stoked the flames.
About time. 
Oh crap I forgot about the monkey shooting. haha
Are you honestly going to tell me that you don’t see the difference between the usages here? Even though it’s not clear that it was intended as such, referring to a black man as a chimpanzee or ape is highly offensive because of the racial history in America; misguided followers of social Darwinism argued that the African race is less evolved, closer to monkeys. There’s an old, vile history there, and people should be conscious of it.
Kind of like how little 8th grade white-bread suburban punks can call each other the n-word, and it’s not offensive, but it becomes offensive when they use it against a black person.
As for Bush, it’s not a racial commentary. It’s a commentary on his physical mannerisms which are (to an extent) within his control. The faces he makes. Not precisely the face he was given by heredity; but even if that were the case, there’s still the consideration to be made that there’s a history of racial slurs against Africans by calling them apes, or otherwise unevolved.
Al Sharpton is an idiot.
So is the person who drew that, and the one who authorized it for publication. I don’t think they necessarily meant anything by it, but when you’re working in the media, you really need to have people to look over these things and think, “Hey, maybe this could be easily taken a way that we don’t intend that is neither constructive nor appropriate. We should probably change it to get rid of that.”
+1. I see how it was intended, but also see how the editors had to be either stupid or in a rush to let that slip through.
We can has blood transfusions from chimps so what is the problem?
It’s funny what things you guys will classify under free speech when it supports your cause, yet rally against when it’s not for your cause.
A great example:
Or if you want to talk about ugly history:
But yeah, no liberals crying out over either of those.
In the end, who cares, because the Post handled it well by basically telling everyone they don’t care.
Blood on the hands isn’t anything to get up in arms about. And I’ll call the comparisons made in the professors article crazy, just like AWD is crazy and just like calling a black person a monkey is racist.
I’m not saying a paper CAN’T print OBAMA IS A FUCKING NIGGER on the front page, but it’s fucking racist if they do.
The first one is not offensive, but is stupid.
The second is plain stupid.
Do you really understand what free speech means? I support their RIGHT to publish their cartoon. I think they’re IDIOTS for doing so. I don’t think they SHOULD have.
Supporting free speech is completely different from supporting what stupid people choose to use that right to express. And I think you’re quite intelligent enough to realize that, so you’re either being deliberately dense to try to make us look like hypocrites (we’re not), or I’ve always overestimated you.
OMG here is a picture of Obama and Bush together!!!
Is it still racist? Are white chimps better than black chimps?
OMG that albino chimp’s eyes are crazy!
Bottom line, the monkey propaganda during a black presidents term will piss people off whether or not it’s meant to be racist.
Who has the right to tell us what we can and can’t say. It’s judgement based on who reads or hears what we say or print. You tell a joke to a group of 10 people and you will most likely get 10 different reactions to it. One possibly thinking it’s racist, one that’s thinking it’s histerical.
What makes it OK for a black person to call another black person a N word (I still don’t say it), but if anyone (usually white) makes any slight reference to something that could almost be slightly racist, they are called out on it. Take the N word out of rap lyrics and conversation then we will call it even. But too many people have their heads up their ass and want to call out people for simple humor that gets misinterpreted. Then you get assholes like Sharpton that bring it to the spotlight to try and get their media attention and it riles up more people.
A joke is a joke, which this original drawing wasn’t meant to be racist, but to tie it into the monkey attack in the news. If you associate it to Obama being black and then equating a monkey, then you are thinking way too much.
Show me a picture of a white person with a cracker photoshopped on their head. Oooooh, I’m offended. Actually not. But it’s a slang name that degredes a white person. See us getting up in arms?
Political correctness is a bunch of shit. Free speech is a joke since it usually gets twisted to make it look like we are offending a group way too often.
Cry you banana bunch of pussies!
Would have been my response…
Possibly…
Freedom of speech bitch.
Part of the reason for what you were rambling on about is the power dynamic. Whites have always had the upper hand in America. Even today, there’s a huge overall power difference.
As for free speech being a joke, you clearly didn’t read what I just posted. People are not threatening free speech by getting offended at something. They might be an idiot, or the person doing the offending might be an idiot.
We’re talking about a justification for slavery and denial of rights - that Africans were somehow sub-human (apes), and thus did not deserve the same protections. They should know better than to let something slip through that even hints at that.
Whether or not they have a right to publish it (they absolutely do), it’s still unbearably stupid.
E: ultradriver10000 - GOOD POINT DUDE, THAT’S TOTALLY EDGY.
Also, it’s offensive, and makes you look like a moron. But please, feel free to keep expressing your freedom of speech, you’re the man!
im with joe.
and I don’t think there were necessarily racial intentions with the cartoon
:picard:
Some of you gentlemen are un-fucking-believable
OMFG SHUT THE FUCK UP EVERYONE.
This is turning into the NEVER-ENDING RACISM IN AMERICA DEBATE THREAD.
HOLY FUCK THERES RACISM IN AMERICA? WE HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH? wat?
BOTTOM LINE:
monkey pic offends some black people.
whoopdie fucking doo.
I understand that. If there were racial intentions, I’d think that Sharpton was a little more justified.
But blatant stupidity does not deserve indulgence. This was a stupid oversight. To make a huge deal out of it is ridiculous, as it was not an intentional slight, but don’t act like this isn’t a monumentally stupid slip-up.
My first thought when I saw that cartoon was, “Oh, God. Seriously?”