yeah its getting a bit bad in my town here when you see civic “drifting” draging their back wheels around…calling it drifting then then want to race you at the light…i jsut put my window up and drove home lol but i guess we better get used to this stuff with how popular drifting is going to get after next friday…then it will die down and probley be alot of 240sx in junkyards smashed up…so maybe more parts for us? lol
There’s not a chance in hell that the 240’s are/will be like civics… for one, Nissan stopped making this car 8+ years ago. 2nd, they never really sold many and kids won’t be patient enough to wait to get one that’s in decent shape.
btw, that article is full of crap… but that’s how media these days is…
They see me rollin’
They hatin’
Patrollin’ and trying to catch me ridin dirty
(trying to catch me ridin dirty) X 4
My music so loud
I’m swangin’
They hopin’ that they gonna catch me ridin dirty
(trying to catch me ridin dirty) X 4
:greddy: Stop your whining, melonheads.
^you’ve had encounters with waterloo regional police?
“SUSPECTED” --this is what bothers me, “suspected” not witnessed, and when they charge you for street racing they get to impound your car, until your trial is over, or unless (in my case) you have a good lawyer who makes a great argument for you. The impound bills will be huge, many people will lse their pride/joys due to over zealous police/politicians.[/b]
did you forget? 95% of people who are going to get into 240’s aren’t gonna know shit about them.
240’s that are worth $100 now will probably jump to like $2000 because ricers can’t tell the goddamn difference.
but, that’s not what i’m trying to lead this thread into… the topic of the 240sx becoming the new civic has been slaughtered by now.[/quote]
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for predicting the recent past.
Hands up who’s bought a rustbucket S13 for 10 times what it’s worth already? How about a stock S14 for close to 20Gs?
How about instead of crying about how much the “Man” is going to be getting you down, get up and do something about it? And for christ sakes don’t give up just cause you can’t do it over email.
The States has really great programs like SAN. Would it be too much to ask the modified community of Ontario to actually stand together and do something about it?
When you’re done splooging to all your buddies about your 150hp KA’s managing to powerslide thanks in no small part to rotten frame buckling and try and make a responsible representation, how do you expect the public to react?
Who are their sources? The 11:00 news, town meetings, and what they see and hear.
If you’ve got bleeding heart “someone died in my constituency, time to get re-elected!” politicians telling these people street racing is responsible for everything from Sirhan-Sirhan’s demise to gas prices today, who do you think they’re going to believe? Especially every time some idiot does some stupid thing behind the wheel, whether they’re driving exotics, domestics or frigging hovercrafts, they’ll blame street racing. Don’t blame the media, that’s weak. Blame the society that is so hungry for it. Obesity of trivial knowledge is a pandemic.
Distance yourself from the irresponsible and wreckless turds that should have been given 3 short whistles out of the gene pool years ago – both by your actions and how you are perceived.
It doesn’t help that they keep flinging themselves into Darwinism across the front pages.
Why do you think they even have rules for driving? Not because the man wanted to keep us down, and not let us have fun, it’s because people started dying. They realized the average person doensn’t have enough common sense to drive a car. I know a ton of you are nodding your heads right now, saying “preach on,” but I’m sorry, you’re probably a terrible driver too.
A false sense of competence and a false sense of a “sports car” is a dangerous mix.
And trust me, you never get over deaths that are preventable.
did you forget? 95% of people who are going to get into 240’s aren’t gonna know shit about them.
240’s that are worth $100 now will probably jump to like $2000 because ricers can’t tell the goddamn difference.
but, that’s not what i’m trying to lead this thread into… the topic of the 240sx becoming the new civic has been slaughtered by now.[/quote]
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for predicting the recent past.
Hands up who’s bought a rustbucket S13 for 10 times what it’s worth already? How about a stock S14 for close to 20Gs?
How about instead of crying about how much the “Man” is going to be getting you down, get up and do something about it? And for christ sakes don’t give up just cause you can’t do it over email.
The States has really great programs like SAN. Would it be too much to ask the modified community of Ontario to actually stand together and do something about it?
When you’re done splooging to all your buddies about your 150hp KA’s managing to powerslide thanks in no small part to rotten frame buckling and try and make a responsible representation, how do you expect the public to react?
Who are their sources? The 11:00 news, town meetings, and what they see and hear.
If you’ve got bleeding heart “someone died in my constituency, time to get re-elected!” politicians telling these people street racing is responsible for everything from Sirhan-Sirhan’s demise to gas prices today, who do you think they’re going to believe? Especially every time some idiot does some stupid thing behind the wheel, whether they’re driving exotics, domestics or frigging hovercrafts, they’ll blame street racing. Don’t blame the media, that’s weak. Blame the society that is so hungry for it. Obesity of trivial knowledge is a pandemic.
Distance yourself from the irresponsible and wreckless turds that should have been given 3 short whistles out of the gene pool years ago – both by your actions and how you are perceived.
It doesn’t help that they keep flinging themselves into Darwinism across the front pages.
Why do you think they even have rules for driving? Not because the man wanted to keep us down, and not let us have fun, it’s because people started dying. They realized the average person doensn’t have enough common sense to drive a car. I know a ton of you are nodding your heads right now, saying “preach on,” but I’m sorry, you’re probably a terrible driver too.
A false sense of competence and a false sense of a “sports car” is a dangerous mix.
And trust me, you never get over deaths that are preventable.[/quote]
lol kudos to matt, im gonna keep drivnig the way i want to drive, just out of sight and stuff, and if it takes things to the extreme to keep doing things I love I will keep doing it, my life is about being happy and feeling good, not about satisfying everyone around me, so honestly, I give fcuk all about who got killed and who killed them, I wasnt a part of it, yea I feel bad for them, but I really dont have much time to give a shit about shit that im not involved in, i have better things to do such a set my life straight and feel good… peace out
The true reason Mr. Klees wants to crack down on street racers in not because of some people who were involved in a fatal car crash because of some clown that doesn’t know how to drive was carelessly speeding but because Mr. Klees probably owns some done up Ford Mustang or Camaro or Cuda that makes all the noise in the world as it rumbels and ticks and bangs all American muscle baby! and he thought he was the man, Mr. officer with a rebel car he is the law and he is the fastest, a rebel working for the “good guys” and then one day his world came to an end because someone pulled up next to him with a little imported vehicle from a far away land with only a 2000 cc engine , 4 little pistons and one big ass motherfucken turbo under the hood that brought his whole world crashing down to an end as he watched that little car pull further and further from him. And he has been a sore loser ever since!
They want to stop street racing, first find the right people to point the fingure at, not us. Just because a car is modified it doesn’t mean it’s a street racers car. And then give zoning rights to build a track less the an hour away from Toronto with a governed entry fee.
Step one is first point the fingure at the right people, not just anyone with a modified vehicle.
You belong in a mental institution.
And, in response to mr200’s post: Preach on!
Every one of us belongs in a mental institution for one reason or another. Don’t hate.
Matt’s right, of course…
but I’m still leaving this country.
[quote=“sidewayssilvias14”]
You belong in a mental institution.
And, in response to mr200’s post: Preach on![/quote]
he belongs in a mental institution because he likes having fun and feeling good?
you belong in a mental institution for not taking enough risks and having a boring ass life with no thrills or excitement
did you forget? 95% of people who are going to get into 240’s aren’t gonna know shit about them.
240’s that are worth $100 now will probably jump to like $2000 because ricers can’t tell the goddamn difference.
but, that’s not what i’m trying to lead this thread into… the topic of the 240sx becoming the new civic has been slaughtered by now.[/quote]
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for predicting the recent past.
Hands up who’s bought a rustbucket S13 for 10 times what it’s worth already? How about a stock S14 for close to 20Gs?
How about instead of crying about how much the “Man” is going to be getting you down, get up and do something about it? And for christ sakes don’t give up just cause you can’t do it over email.
The States has really great programs like SAN. Would it be too much to ask the modified community of Ontario to actually stand together and do something about it?
When you’re done splooging to all your buddies about your 150hp KA’s managing to powerslide thanks in no small part to rotten frame buckling and try and make a responsible representation, how do you expect the public to react?
Who are their sources? The 11:00 news, town meetings, and what they see and hear.
If you’ve got bleeding heart “someone died in my constituency, time to get re-elected!” politicians telling these people street racing is responsible for everything from Sirhan-Sirhan’s demise to gas prices today, who do you think they’re going to believe? Especially every time some idiot does some stupid thing behind the wheel, whether they’re driving exotics, domestics or frigging hovercrafts, they’ll blame street racing. Don’t blame the media, that’s weak. Blame the society that is so hungry for it. Obesity of trivial knowledge is a pandemic.
Distance yourself from the irresponsible and wreckless turds that should have been given 3 short whistles out of the gene pool years ago – both by your actions and how you are perceived.
It doesn’t help that they keep flinging themselves into Darwinism across the front pages.
Why do you think they even have rules for driving? Not because the man wanted to keep us down, and not let us have fun, it’s because people started dying. They realized the average person doensn’t have enough common sense to drive a car. I know a ton of you are nodding your heads right now, saying “preach on,” but I’m sorry, you’re probably a terrible driver too.
A false sense of competence and a false sense of a “sports car” is a dangerous mix.
And trust me, you never get over deaths that are preventable.[/quote]
Ok matt, seriously the best post I’ve ever seen on this board.
I’ve tended to drive like an idiot on the street when the situation permits it, but I’ve found a solution.
People with slow stockish cars rip everywhere to prove they are hardcore seriousssss
When you have a wicked tastefully done car you can just cruise and let it be seen for what it is.
Take the money you spend on tickets and lawyers and spend it on your cars.
he belongs in a mental institution because he likes having fun and feeling good?
you belong in a mental institution for not taking enough risks and having a boring ass life with no thrills or excitement
since not all of us can afford to pay for our carelessness and be eXtreme!, yes. you can still have fun responsibly or at least to a reasonable amount (of risk). although people should enjoy life, they also have to take others and their safety into consideration as his other posts don’t seem to show. and when one doesn’t do that, that person is what is called selfish.
the world isn’t all about a single person and how much fun they want to have in their party called life, besides the fact that taking risks isn’t the only way people can enjoy it. want to be extreme and get a real kick out of life? go cliff diving, or bunjee jumping, or skydiving, or even go swim with some sharks. but at least that way, you leave others out of the equation.
i’m sure heroin would make me feel great, doesn’t mean i do it, because there are consequences. the consequences of one’s actions might not be immediate, but they WILL catch up sooner or later because shit happens and that’s life.
amen, Matt.
Man, it’s really hard to take a guy with a .gif of a man making out with a goat seriously. You have a point,
but if you can get away with doing what you want, why not do it? after all, most people do what they do only because they know they can.
EXTREME CONVENIENCE STORE KAYAKING YEAAH
btw if it hasn’t become apparent to you all, conservatism is by it’s nature selfish, everything revolves around the me, every event has a direct influence on the me
this is why the closed (and feeble usually) minded people rally together screaming about how terrible another person or group of persons is as it relates to their lives, never mind that thing called freedom…
it is also why they are the first to pass restrictive laws, which they justify with their own lifestyle (often hypocritically), since they themselves don’t do something, they can’t see any reason to allow that thing, and will feel no regret or pains from having that thing banned/restrained
it’s like some lady 3 houses over from you calling the fire dept on your smokey BBQ… or complaining about your piece of junk with no wheels in the driveway (that you swore would be done 8 months ago) for no other reason than it disturbs her mental image of the area she lives…
in short this isn’t something you can cure by reasoning with them, and the worst part is, even if you have a louder voice in your politician’s ear, the politician can’t very well rally for a non-law to be passed, there’s no political benefit to doing nothing
about the only saving grace in canada is that culturally (ontario) we are diverse and there isn’t a large concensus of opinion/hate/fear that gets politicians restricting our freedom, just consider california with the visual inspections, silly… of course the nazi insurance companies are doing alright kicking us in the nuts but that’s another story
- make friends with your asshole neighbours
- learn to speak intelligently and articulate your opinions well
- be respectful as much as possible (know what they say bout flattery…)
etc
Just to throw more gasoline and soap flakes on this.
You bring up point 2 of my most-ranted-about topics.
Insurance companies. When are we taking these phuckers on?
I swear there’s some kind of collusion, or at least they know a cash cow when they see it.
Funny, you ask any insurance company, and they say the reason the rates are so high is because of all these kids crashing their souped up cars.
Which, if we know the facts
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If your car is modified and you’re up front about it, odds are you will be declined coverage.
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If your car is modified, and you lie about it, then crash, you won’t be covered.
So basically, there must be hundreds of cars out there with “fudged” policies, or no policy at all.
Since the insurance companies have more than enough loopholes to duck out of actually paying out, it’s safe to say modified cars do not, in any sense cost the insurance companies more money.
I have a letter still from State Farm, explaining to me why my rates went up, just as I turned 25 … because of ongoing payouts for a high number of claims, they regretfully have to jack my rates. Since I was turning 25, my rates should have dropped. Instead, they actually managed to increase to just above where they were when I was 24.
Then I started talking to a lot of people. It’s in the nature of my jobs. I’ve met a lot of accident victims. People who were injured in accidents, by other drivers, who were at fault.
So, since we know the minimum comprehensive/liability insurance coverage is $500,000. So you’d think they’d be covered right? How about hell no? Every one of them has had to actually take legal action to see ANY money. And they have to pass a battery of tests constantly. One guy I know has seen 13 specialists, because the insurance company keeps deciding they disagree with the results and send him somewhere else.
While he was at home, a private investigator was hired to watch him to make sure he was actually injured, and not faking it. They had pictures of him walking around. He lost his job because of the accident, he’s dealing with disability for the rest of his life. And he hasn’t seen a penny. Not a cent.
The guy that hit him wasn’t drinking, wasn’t high, wasn’t speeding, weather was nice. The guy that got hit was driving within the confines of the law.
So what exactly is it we are paying for? And how do insurance companies keep turning billion dollar profits every year?
Ever notice how pretty much only gas and insurance prices can fluctuate on completely fabricated forecasts?
Could you imagine if they did the same with, I dunno … cotton?
You bring a shirt up to the cash register, and when you tried it on this morning, it was $29. You came back on your lunch break, and now that shirt is $44. Not just that shirt, every shirt in the store, in the mall, and in the city now costs $44. A tropical storm is brewing over the Georgia coast, and cotton production is threatened. So naturally, that shirt that was made with cotton at the old price, woven in the good old days of cheap cotton, was on the shelf before the price even changed, has to cost more. Even though it’s actually made with Manitoba cotton.
But if you run all the way across town, you might find the same shirt for $42.
What you’re saying is good and all, but how do you actually expect to see any results? I mean, you won’t be able to persuade EVERYONE in this club to join you in a rally against the insurance companies, and even if you did, we’re a very small group, they wouldn’t care. More car clubs? Maybe… But as soon as you start posting messages like this across other car clubs, they’re gonna think you’re on crack, and they’re not gonna take you seriously.
^^^ x1, 2 and 3
Which ALL brings me to my point: Leaving Canada is the best solution.
tell me about it, high risk. I tried to explain to my broker I have Z32 brakes and would provide a video detailing the stopping distance difference, no go.
I tried to tell my broker that I’ll put L.E.D. tail lights in since the flash time is 0.6 seconds faster which correlates into about 45 feet at highway speed, no this won’t reduce your risk factor.
Insurance in B.S. all the way, billion dollar and rising profits.
I like most, have actually figured out that people on internet forums do one of two things, and neither of them involve actually getting off their butts.
Ever wonder why motorcycles are left alone with loud exhausts? Ever hear how they actually successfully beat back the insurance industry in the 90s for collusion and unfair price gouging?
Most of you were probably in grade school.
Don’t worry about what I’m going to do. I’ve got stuff in the works, part of a pretty big PR mission for you ingrates.
A line needs to be drawn to decide whether or not you help the community, and most e-thug and e-drifters fall under the catagory of “not helping things”
Every time someone does something stupid behind the wheel, we ALL pay for it. If people aren’t willing to stand up and take responsibility for their actions, it’s important to distance yourself from them, or be guilty by association. Encourage higher driving. Hmm … maybe I should reword that.
Imagine what’s going to happen when CP24 interviews a “street drifter” from TO, and it’s some mumbly 17 year old with a beat up stock 240sx, who flashes gang signs, walks with a gimp, cusses out, can’t even see beyond the brim of his hat. He’s speaking for all of us. So when he tells the reporter that “grabbing the handbrake at 100km/h is the life man, drift or die!”
We’ve gone a higher route with professionals and lawyers. Because f*ck what all of you have to say … I’ve been playing with modified cars for over a decade and I’m not about to give it up because some brain dead twits can’t figure out how to live like decent courteous citizens.
And I’m not a poof behind the wheel either.
Should call the campaign On the Common Sense Trail - '06
Will it make a difference? Hard to say. Politicians back down all the time. Voters hate Steven Harper (and I blame all of them for electing him in the first place). He has a drawn a lot of criticism for his Draconian conservatism. All you really need to find is an opposition MP that likes cars. It’s not only 240sxs and 15-20 year olds that drive this scene.
We think it’s a simple request that the government make clear-cut CAN and CAN NOT rules for us to abide by. It would nice for a change if they actually consulted someone who knew what they were talking about.
Im all about sticking it to the man, a good debate/argument/battttorle gets my spidey sense tingling.
Whatever you have planned I know it’ll be ace, so fill me in next time we’re both at the shop.