You can add light here or there with Lightroom. But if there is light available without having to use flash…or if I can use settings that don’t make the pictures look like crap without flash…I will always use the natural light even if I have to use a tripod, or coax people into standing super still, etc.
That’s just how I roll I guess.
I concur…at least for my style/taste.
There are certain situations where artificial light brings your subject to life however, or it may be too dark to photograph a person at a reasonable ISO number. For those situations off camera strobes are ideal.
Depends what you’re shooting but I like natural light when possible.
Yeah, that’s basically what I said. Sometimes you need flash, but I do everything in my power to avoid it. I just don’t like it.
I agree, I do prefer natural light to a flash in most situations, but you can actually get a natural look once you learn how to use it. After doing all the editing I have now and the things ive learned in the few short months, shadowing my uncle etc. I’d rather get the exposure and light done right from the moment I press the shutter button then spend hours post processing if it doesnt need to be done.
Agreed, unfortunately setting up strobes in every situation during a wedding etc is pretty much impossible :lol
Play with it, find someone to practice on, ask around and try some things. You can get a flash to look quite natural, sometimes you have to take it off auto/TTL and learn to use it manually, but its very possible. You’re making a lot of work for yourself by shooting underexposed, sacrificing light and retouching afterwards, not only that your probably making your job a bit harder/longer for you and the people your shooting if your making them stand perfectly still pulling out your tripod when you can just use the flash
I’m sorry if I sound like I know everything, because I don’t I’m just relaying things I’ve tried myself along with watching my uncle/father and other family members shoot weddings and events since I was a little kid, ask jim and dan, I constantly ask them questions, im constantly playing with my camera and trying things, theres plenty on here that know more then me, but my eyes dont lie :lol. Maybe im biased but I’ll tell you my uncle in paritcular takes some of the best event photos I have ever seen. He’s arrogant and a perfectionist, he’s good at what he does and obviously has been doing something right if he’s been doing it for 35+ years. He hardly likes what he does anymore to be honest and is a bit of an asshole, but thats because people don’t want to spend what they used to on weddings and their definition of “quality” has changed and don’t understand your paying for time, not just the photos
but I will say again, I like you guys do prefer natural lighting… but for moving people in dark areas or with all diferent contrasts… sometimes natual light just doesnt make sense.
Your uncle is right. Every fuckhead with an DSLR (myself included lol) thinks they’re a photographer because they have a Facebook fan page and a watermark. There are hundreds of guys that make anything I shoot look like shit. The reason I started taking photos is for a hobby, something to do through the week when I had days off and no one was around. Like any serious hobby, you eventually want more or change things up as you learn. You go through stages of what you shoot. You push yourself to do more challenging tasks.
Dan and I were talking about editing with photoshop the other day, I still don’t know how to edit using masks. Someday I’ll sit down and teach myself.
Weddings are something I have zero interest in shooting. Maybe in the future I will, maybe a year from now I won’t own a camera. I was asked to do engagement photos for a friend of mine and the whole time shooting them I felt like it was the most lifeless, single emotion, fake photos I was taking. I’d much rather have freedom to create whatever I felt like and try to convey that emotion from an inanimate object a best as I can or of a person in a different situation than that of wedding or engagement photo. I’ve had an idea for a portrait of a girl based on addiction and drugs in my head for about 5 years now, maybe someday I’ll create it.
Plz say she is naked 
Photography will always just be a hobby, aside from starting to do some light work for my uncle, i never want to make any sort of real profession out of it. I never want to get to the point where I don’t want to pick up my camera, I constantly see something that looks interesting or just beautiful and always think how I can shoot it to get the look I want and as you said sometimes get the emotion/feeling im trying to portray.
I know a few photographers who hate what they do now because they have seen what the photography buisness has become and where its going, what people expect out of a photographer and how cheap people are, which like you said means every "fuckhead’ can step in and shoot a wedding for 500 bucks and married couple thinks its great.
Unfortunately we are in the age where we are so used to seeing low quality photos from point and shoots/cell phones and people who just have no idea what the hell their doing and what a proper photo should look like, that anything marginally better is good enough to most people.
A lot of people don’t seem to know what good photographs should look like anymore regardless of the subject/event.
From talking to you KBB and CFD i respect you guys because your good at what you do but you don’t really seem to try and pass yourselves off as anything opther then people who just enjoy taking photographs and your not arrogant. Same can be said for Nick as well.
Nope lol.
I’ll discuss it with you soon haha. A ton of set up, but would look amazing in the end.
Thanks!
We sure did throw this thread off topic in classic Shift form lol.
least it was good discussion
and you’re welcome :hug
Do action cams count?
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