You’re an idiot. I suppose SPA, Bathurst, WGI, etc are stupid tracks as well?
Go back to the Tilke designed garbage we’ve been used to seeing.
More stupidity from noobs. :picard:
too dangerous for bikes… eek.
Thanks for the welcome.
How old are you?
Have you ever raced anything on a road course? (Trackdays don’t count, but have you ever driven a car or ridden a bike on a trackday?) Have you ever held a actual license to race, even on an amateur level? Have you been in a race where someone died? Has your vehicle ever hit a wall at a road course? Ever tended to someone injured and lying on a track after coming into contact with a wall?
I figure that you are a total noob but that you might have watched a road race on TV or actually been to one once, so I will cut you some slack.
in4pwnage
And while I’m sure you’re plenty concerned, last I checked the FIA doesnt just toss safety approvals around for tracks. If it’s good enough for FIA GT it’s good enough for me, and while I applaud the stewards and J. Stewart for spearheading safety advances over the past 40 years, racing, by nature is a DANGEROUS SPORT. If you aren’t comfortable with the fact that you may be maimed, injured and possibly KILLED… don’t do it.
Jackie chiles is a good guy, as is mike…
I think you both are underestimating each other…
I also think you are viewing it from 2 different perspectives, bikes vs cars…
Either way, 
That is one hell of a track. I would love to take a ride on that…
In.
i havent read below this yet, and cant wait for the carnage to ensue! wowzers:picard:
Cool, but don’t you agree that if you or your kid were running off a corner at speed that you’d rather have runoff than hit armco or a cement wall?
There is a smart way and a stupid way to build a track. This looks like the stupidest modern track around, pretty as it is.
I’m not for building soulless tracks like Alan Wilson does. I love the grand old tracks like Mosport, Daytona, Brainerd and the like that I have actually raced on . . .
. . .but, again, I’ll take my chances with grassy runoff rather than solid metal or cement walls any day of the week.
Some risks I’m willing to accept, but designers of racetracks should at least use some intelligence when considering the cost to man and machinery impacting something hard. You should know that, and I bet you were doing nothing more than being grouchy with a percieved noob.
As to Willy’s comment about me being a bike guy, and not a car guy, it is true that I primarily raced bikes on and off since the 70s. Guard rail is an anathema to bike racers I will admit. I am an irregular contributor to the Airfence Fund, a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit that buys inflatable barriers that are but an attempt to cut down the number of fatalities and serious injuries from riders hitting walls and guard rail. But if I race again it will be in a formula car or sports racer and even then I would much rather have runoff than the alternative.
Cheers.
:tup: always classy… <3
IMHO
Beautiful-Yes
Interesting-Yes
Impractical-Yes
Doesn’t Argentina have a lot tectonic plate activity??? I feel like the maintenance of this track would get overwhelming and pretty costly, but what do I know.
:tup:
As Willy said, classy. Much respect.
The Glen being my home track, I’m used to just expecting a nice blue streak if I have an off, it’s a risk I accept.
Is runoff good? Yes, does it bother me when a track does not have it? No, I don’t really think about it, but I’m fairly young and dumb. I’m also not a bike guy so my cage keeps me at peace of mind. shrug I think the track looks incredible, as I said like bathurst or spa, which to me is just about as close to perfection as possible.
And yes, I did fly off the handle on you because of your comment and post count. Once you’ve spent a bit of time and get used to the “usual” idiots that sign up here I think you’ll understand and forgive me for it 
Awwwwwww :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:
bitter-sweet
I wanted to see a brawl, but it is actually refreshing to some good noobs in here.
Now with the vetting done, back to the track…
All is cool.
One of the reasons why I hate guard rail and concrete is that young kids who have no sense of their own mortality freely take risks like racing motorcycles around track with huge impact hazards. A very good friend (much younger) is now a quad b/c of an accident like that.
But I would probably go to the Glen to run a car track day, treating the track with huge respect (i.e. going very slow), for the sack of driving what is probably one of the top three historic race courses in the US.
And btw, the concept of a blue streak on my car, or leathers for that matter, leaves a brown streak in my shorts. :roflpicard:
I’ve had a code brown moment or two at the track… like getting sideways in the kink at Nelson…
Mike, you just lost your ultimate hater title. 
FAWWWWWWWWKK I knew I should’ve kept the convo to PM 