Self driving car kills pedestrian

First case of an autonomous car killing a pedestrian. Should be interesting to see how this plays out. Really curious to see the circumstances behind the accident and if it was a case of the woman stepping out in front of the car with no chance for the car to avoid her or if it was a case of the car just not seeing her similar to the Tesla that decapitated it’s drive when a white semi turned in front of it and the cameras failed to see the contrast between the white trailer and the sun.

Where it could get REALLY interesting is if the logs show the car did see the pedestrian but the only avoidance option it had would have involved crashing into another car/building/object and the logic tree was coded to protect the occupants of the car over a pedestrian. That coding logic is something my software engineer friends and I have discussed. The age old excuse of, “I didn’t have time to react”, or, “I didn’t swerve into the ditch to avoid her because it happens so fast” goes out the window when it comes to a computer. All those logic trees are programmed ahead of time and in a no-win situation where stopping or safely swerving isn’t an option someone has to either code it to hit the pedestrian or crash the car.

Doesn’t matter. In today’s day and age pedestrians are the almighty rulers of the streets. After all, it takes them longer to stop walking than any vehicle at any speed.

Is this the first pedestrian death from an autonomous car ever? I can’t seem to find stats.

From what I’ve read, yes. That Tesla killed it’s driver by tractor trailer decapitation but this appears to be the first autonomous car/pedestrian fatality.

That driver was watching Harry Potter at the time…

It’s going to get really weird when there are just cars at cars and coffee. What happens when a self driving Mustang runs over a pedestrian on the way out and the only witnesses are other cars?

After driving around today, I wonder how self driving cars will be programmed to handle Buffalo pot holes let alone pedestrians. Will they dodge pot holes or just jump right into them?

My guess is they will drive right into a pothole because the camera technology isn’t good enough to spot it at speed. Reading on the Tesla forum seems to confirm this. Potholes and big puddles/flooding are a real problem for the current system of autonomous driving.

Alright, knock off this Mustang bashing shit.

Ok, sorry,. :slight_smile:

Stop running over people after cars and coffee then! :slight_smile:

Isn’t there a Ted talk on the “morality” decisions of these cars? A car has 2 options-- drive off a cliff or run over a group of kids. Which does it choose? Which SHOULD it choose?

It will be interesting to see the data in this case to see if the car was at fault.

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AAAaaaannnddd the safety driver in the Uber was a convicted felon. That “thunk” sound you just heard was Uber’s PR manager quitting and slamming the door behind him.

Doesn’t matter if he was a felon if he wasn’t in control at the time. Actually it probably doesn’t matter that he’s a felon at all.

I’m hearing the investigation is showing UBER is not at fault, but that the pedestrian was. We’ll see.

In a court of law it doesn’t matter because it’s likely the pedestrian who stepped out right in front of the car will likely be ruled at fault. In the court of public opinion, where Uber has already been struggling greatly, this is a PR nightmare when you add in the ex-felon behind the wheel.

Based on the new info that she stepped out at the last minute and the human didn’t have time to react I really hope the logs from the computer get released. With a few milliseconds reaction time there’s a good chance the computer saw the pedestrian and had at least started braking or executing some kind of avoidance routine.

“Self Driving Car Kills Pedestrian”

Not good that the lidar system failed to see the pedestrian AT ALL. Not like it was a blind curve or anything.


I really expected to see that she ran right out in front of it, stepped out from between parked cars or there were other cars in the area that prevented an avoidance swerve or something. Never expected it would be a straight road with no traffic where she was slowly walking her bike across and it should have been easy for the sensors to see her and brake/swerve. You could say the person didn’t see her because of the range of the headlights but lidar doesn’t rely on the headlights.

The only thing I can think of is that she wasn’t directly in front of the car and standing off to the side. So the system didn’t see her and crossing the vehicles path. Then at the last moment she decided to cross.