I’m just waiting for the new Cuda’ (not to buy, just for admiration purposes). Based on some concept photos (which are probably fake), it looks like a Viper with a 70’s front end with two big 355’s in the back, I’ll try finding the photo.
EDIT: http://www.mustseecenter.com/2015/08/16/a-55000-stylish-and-sporty-2016-dodge-barracuda/ - Totally fake LoL
I dig the new Camaro and I’m a Mustang guy. It’s hard not to dig any of the new ponycars, they’re just getting better and better.
12.3 @ 116
0-60 3.9
Not bad for entry level V8 car
slicks and 11s stock… not bad not bad
I’m still going with the GT350.
Which is a 50k car…
This is something like 34k base…
That was mostly for my heterosexual life mate Renzo, seeing as he was talking about 1LEs and ZL1s.
I thought base v8 now 38k?
Ok 38k and 50k+ you feel better now? lol
They’re not in the same price range
:ky:
I’d love the gt350 as well.
1LE now available for V6:
V6 and V8 to be clear. The V6 is 335hp and runs the same track times as the Gen 5 SS FYI.
Wait till you see what is next 
damn those are pretty cars…
The V-8 1LE will be a lot of coin. It comes standard with Recaros’ which are a $2k option (on the 5th gen), magnetic suspension which is a $1695 option, Brembo 6-piston brakes which is a $3175 option, and NPP exhaust which is a $895 option. That is $7795 right there, and there are a bunch of other added features. It wouldn’t surprise me to see the 1LE being a $10k option. Base 1SS is $37295, so figure a typical 1LE will be near the $50k mark. Yikes!
Holy shit that green is ridiculously sexy
Motor Trend just did a Head-To-Head with a 2016 Camaro SS versus a 2015 BMW M4
You have to be a member to see it, but you can sign up for a free 2-week trial:
http://www.motortrendondemand.com/show/head-2-head-/270182/
The Camaro won 0-60, 1/4 mile, and braking, the M4 won at the track by .2. Both cars were stick.
The Camaro won the overall shootout too. If they had picked an auto 8-speed it would have whooped the M4 in all of the acceleration marks by an even wider margin, and beat it at the track too, for roughly $35k less.
Really, because according to this data the M4 would kill ths SS auto roll racing:
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2015-bmw-m4-manual-tested-review-car-and-driver2015-bmw-m4-coupe.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2016-chevrolet-camaro-ss2016-chevrolet-camaro-ss-comparison-dec-2015.pdf
60-100:
M4 - 4.9 sec
SS w/auto - 5.0 sec
60-130:
M4 - 11.0 sec
SS w/ auto - 12.0 sec
60-150:
M4 - 18.2 sec
SS w/ auto - 21.2 sec
They don’t do roll racing in head to head. They do 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
You didn’t look at the correction factor either. The BMW was tested in better weather.
You pick the dumbest shit to argue on too. Look at the rolls that were measured from 50-70 and 30-50, lol. The Camaro has it covered by 2 seconds on some of those short bursts.
This is NYSPEED, they do roll racing here, and it is more relevant to the average NYSPEEDers driving style than lap times.
Oh you mean the variations that are mostly within 1% of each other. The variance in correction factors between the two test conditions is:
SP +/- 0.5%
ET +/- 0.4%
LIN +/- 2.3%
The variance between the M4 and SS w/ the super duper amazing fast automatic accelerating from 0 to 150 mph is +/- 12.3%
When was the last time you were at a track exiting a corner and only accelerate to 70? Why would you be at a track doing 30?
2 seconds you say?
30-50
M4 - 1.6 sec
SS w/ auto - 1.4 sec
50-70
M4 - 1.7 sec
SS w/ auto - 1.9 sec
Are you serious, you made me look that up and the M4 still won 50-70.
Math much?
I don’t consider myself as having an NYSPEEDer driving style. Nobody here drag races I guess.
Who the hell goes zero to 150? Are you doing 1/2 mile races somewhere? What track could you hit 150 on around here?
You get your numbers from the flat out acceleration numbers and then you subtract, but unfortunately that’s not how roll racing is done. Roll racing is done at a constant speed and then a mash of the gas. Your Car+Driver links CLEARLY show their own roll racing numbers that they did, but you just choose to ignore that, and then call me out on math, lol. I’ll put them up for you in case you missed them:
Camaro:
5-60: 4.0
30-50: 2.3
50-70: 2.7
BMW:
5-60: 4.6
30-50: 6.7
50-70: 5.0
You can recheck my math here but the Camaro wins 5-60 by .6, it wins the 30-50 by 4.4 seconds, and it wins the 50-70 by 2.3 seconds. Those are rolls, like how most people do them. The last one is a classic pass on the highway. I’m assuming the Camaro has a traction issue since it beats the BMW from 0-60 by .2 but smokes it on 5-60 by .6.
They are listed right on the same links you posted, but they don’t fit your argument so you find a way to make the BMW look better.
