ARC Air Suction Kit

pics and a discription of what this wonderful item does?

hahaha, thinking the same thing.

its just a mad jdm arc box http://www.autorice.com/~autorice/cart/images/items/temp/intake.JPG

This is an air box that is supposed to supply far more cold air to the engine then a regular aftermarket intake system.
Its a silver box that connects to the turbo intake pipe, and the right size k and n filter is needed to be slapped into the box…

man… looks like a nice system… but flat box filters can never flow as much air as a cone filter

cone style intake will lose the low end torque …air box will keep the low end torque…

that’s like saying restricting the air flow will make your car faster :slight_smile:

K&N box filter flows 300 or so CFM… K&N cone filter flows 800 CFM…

Although, this is the ARC intake system. So essentially you’re getting cold air instead of warm air. And cold air is better than warm air.

Anyway… we just hijacked his thread… lets let some real buyers post here instead… hehe… Sorry about that.

is it for S14 or S13? …or fit both of them?

fits both…

Just wondering whats the point of getting cold air into a turbo engine when the air will heat up as it passes through the turbo???
Thats what an intercooler is for

reduces the amount of heat the air starts with.

again thats what an intercooler is for

but if the air is not so hot to begin with, there is less cooling needed at the intercooler.

hot air will get even hotter when compressed.

if your intercooler can reduce your air temp by 10 degrees, but your cold air box reduced it by another 10 degrees, then you’re 10 better than taking in warm air.

I’m jus throwing figures out for an example.

whats the point of taking a piss now if your just gonna have to piss again later?

True but
Cold air gets hotter faster then warm air
And if you dont belive me the is a test you can do
Put hot water in the frezer and cold water in the frezer
which one becomes ice first

I’m sorry, but that is dumb

obviously the cold water gets to ice first.

that’s like saying: put ice into warm water and put ice into hot water. which one will melt the ice first? and which one will be colder in the end.

^^^

actually you should definetly DO the experiment because the hot water freezes first. man i thought everyone watched bill nye the science guy.

though i do agree that colder air going into the turbo is better than engine air, but i think that normal outside air is cold enough, if you start doing shit to cool it down you have to remove energy and slow the air down entering the turbo witch has a worse effect.

Bill Nye the science guy is on crack.

Now it’s been a while since I looked into this in physics so bear with me. The phenomena you are refering to is the Mpemba effect, and in certain situations the warm water does freeze faster. This, however, is not always the case so the mpemba effect is by no means a rule to live by. Now this is where is gets intersting :smiley: The mpemba effect, while easily observable in water, doesn’t occur to air in movement. Now since our little engines see mostly air that is circulating quickly it makes little sense to imply that the mpemba effect would occur.

So to make it simple,
It only happens to non-moving water (liquid), not fast moving air (gas).

Anyway, enough science talk. The air intake on the SR resides just forward of the hot turbo and exhaust manifold, where it is exposed to high under hood temps. The difference between the temp under the hood and the ambient air temp can be significant. Finding a way to draw dense, colder air into the engine will result in less heat in the intake tract both before and after the turbo. Add the intercoolers effect to this already chilled air and the net result is more power.