Back in my day...

I absolutely blame the mother. How hard would it have been to go to one of the neighbor’s house and ask them to keep an eye on things while they are gone? This comes back to the same point that was brought up in the 18 year old motorcycle death thread. At 17/18 years old, a person’s mind isn’t able to fully process the difference between right/wrong as quick as you or I might be able to today.

This girl realized she screwed up, but it was far too late. Her parent’s obviously didn’t consider that she might have a party at their house. Also, don’t get me wrong, I am not taking any blame away from this girl at all. However, at some point you have the realize that this girl isn’t even 18. Her parents are technically 100% responsible for her.

A complete cop out of a response, that’s all I can say.

LOL quite the rage…cant say I haven’t done all those things in the past at parties (except actually torch the car…although we did light a boat on fire a couple of 4th of julys ago. (Drunk owner said we could…soo…)

My mindset was that I was never afraid of the police, it was the aftermath of them bringing me home to my father.

How is it a cop out statement? You want to blame a 17 year old girl and let her parents of the hook? Talk about avoiding the real problem…

HAHAHAHAAHAHA.

+1 There is factual proof that kids without parents or A parent have a greater tendency to be in trouble. I have family members who don’t discipline their kids and their children are an embarrassment to be around.

Yes.
There comes a point where the parents can only do so much and a point where the “child” needs to take responsibility.
At 17 yrs old, she knows right from wrong, especially in this instance.
She thought she could get away with something like this, the weight falls on her.

I’m not going to argue with you, I’ve made my point, agree to disagree.

When I was 16 years old, I “broke into” ( the gate was wide open) the local speedway and took an old guardrail from the junk pile and was taking it home to skateboard on. A neighbor saw my friends and I leaving with and called the owner who called the Troopers. Needless to say, I was taken home in a cop car and the cop lectured my parents which in turn kicked my ass. The cop gave me a stern warning, but he knew that if he made my parents feel the pain, I would feel it twice as hard.

You can’t put this all on the girl. It is up to her parents to show some discipline and responsibility. Now all they are doing is crying out for attention and looking for sympathy when in fact they should be looked at as parents who aren’t doing their job.

I also think that 17 year old kids in today’s world are totally different than when I grew up. Less responsibility, easier access to making the wrong decision, lower expectations…

Kids are just fucking retarded now a days.

Good story, BUT, you can still only put so much on the parents and there comes a point when it falls on the “kid”.
Do you personally know them, that they are bad parents?
Using your reasoning, those “kids” don’t know any better and we should also blame the parents of the others who stole and damaged the property because apparently all those “kids” don’t know any better or know NOT to damage, burn and destroy others property.

It sounds to me the girl tried to be cool and it got out of control.
Bad decision on her part, she’s responsible for it, she pays and learns from it.

I don’ feel the parents are crying out for attention.
They want the ppl responsible for the damage to be punished and for their daughter to pay for the damages, which I don’t feel is unreasonable.

Agree to disagree again…

31 posts and noone has posted a pic of her, i am disapointed.

All those kids definitely knew what they were doing and are responsible for their own actions…However with every action is a reaction. I’m going to assume that most of those kids knew that they’d have to go back home and if anything listen to their parents tell them not to do it again…Big woop. Now if they knew that their parents would beat their ass or make their life a living hell…I’d probably bet they wouldn’t be doing what they were doing.

I’ve been in situations before even at that age, where I could either walk away from a bad situation or try and convince those involved it was a bad idea.

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damn sounds like a good one. i miss being 17

i know right, i have a feeling that the kids who burned the car and stole stuff were not from hamburg. in my expirience the kids from hamburg when i was growing up there were generally pussies

I can understand the point about how quick these things can get out of hand with modern social media. That’s not a valid excuse though, more like even more reason parents need to be educated about social media and even more cautious about what their kids are up to.

I think part of the problem is that a lot of the generation of parents who have 14-18 year old kids right now have no idea how social media works. Texting, twitter, facebook, instagram etc all get tossed into some “that’s some crap kids do” category that they refuse to learn about meaning they have no way to see what their kids are up to online.

As a parent, you want to trust your kids. I let mine make poor decisions all the time.
A face full of dirt really gets a point across after I tell them they should stop before they fall on their face.

Nobody likes to think anything like this would happen, but kids really are stupid.
The parents that only see the world as they view it are going to screw their kids over.
The job of a Parent has probably never been this hard. During the depression maybe? or prohibition :smiley:

Yes, to certain point, you have to, that’s how they learn too.
You do you’re best (in theory) to teach them to make the best decisions. What they do with that as they grow up is up to them.

I’m sure all previous generations have said that before…

We all sound like out parents and grandparents on here…LOL.

If only I could keep kids off my damn lawn, I would have all the answers.