Before you vote Democrat/Obama...

You mean can you take the government to court?

The Answer is YES!

Cost would be reduced through preventative measures. I’d much rather help pay for a guys subscription of lypitor over his triple bypass. Which is how the system is set up now.

Our system keeps tens of millions of Americans without health insurence and I have heard nothing from the right that shows they would try to solve that problem.

This comes from the very basic difference of opinion that I have and that millions of Americans have which is…

Healthcare is a RIGHT not a
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If the right can come up with a plan that give these people healthcare that does not involve a government universal plan then I’m all for it.

I just want them to be covered.
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Helllllo communism.

How can you call it communism to want to have health care not be a privilege to only the rich?

Hellloooooo ignorance

I think fruits and vegatables should be a right.
I mean how are people supposed to have enough money left to buy healthy food when cigarettes and beer cost so much?

heath care isn’t a RIGHT, nor has it ever been. The system needs some reform, but the kind obama is proposing is retarded.

If it does go through, I cannot wait to see all of you that pushed for it, paying out of the ass in taxes for it, only to buy PRIVATE insurance on top of that because the public system failed

I’ll put money on it, if it goes through (which I really doubt it will anyway)… 4 years before major problems start to develop

What happens if a homeless man walks into a hospital with a gunshot wound and he doesn’t have health care (today)?

I was at children’s and the sign on the wall explained that NO ONE can be turned away.

OP = retard.

except for people without heathcare?

/sarcasm

Ya they cannot turn you away but it does not stop them from sending you that $5k bill, and then if you need any prescriptions $$$$$$$$

Thats right they can’t be turned away. But how do they pay for the visit? If they can’t pay then that added cost falls on those who do pay by raising the price on all of us.

:banghead:

you are right, i can really draw a comparison of a child dying of treatable cancer to giving vegetables to poor people, that makes sense, you have changed my whole view

GO MCCAIN

He gets treated and guess who pays for it…we do.

In emergency cases hospitals pick up the bill, but what about a person with cancer or aids a prolonged illness. What about a person that needs a transplant? They don’t get covered by an ER visit.

In a country as rich as ours with the best doctors and the best hospitals its insane to allow some people to die, or keep people from getting treated because they know they won’t be able to pay.

It should be a right.

Not to mention the “treatment” they get is the bare minimum to keep them alive for a bit, not well, and sent on their way with a bunch of bills, and prescriptions for life saving drugs that they know they won’t be able to fill. Sweet life. (Or, after a month or so, lack thereof)

ok, so lets say in a perfect world obama gets into office and his heath care plan passes.

The Feds can’t seem to manage/fix social security, nor can they manage/fix welfare or unemployment or disability or medicaid… how is this going to be any different?

it’s not. As of now, I’ve paid a shit load of money into SS that I’ll never collect on and on top of that, pay money into a 401K so I do have “insurance” for the future. When I broke my arm and was unable to work, disability did JACK SHIT for me even though I’ve paid quite a bit into that too. The same is going to happen with heath care… they’ll be taking a bigger chunk out of our paychecks while the vast majority will probably stay with private care, despite the cost and end up HURTING the middle class worse than they already are

edit: just give me a simple breakdown on how they WONT drop the ball on this program too, and I’ll shut up about it. (nobody can though until it happens)

^Don’t forget Medicare. The big one.

i have a solution, re-distribute the wealth in this country, tax the fuck out of them to help “JOE SIX PACK” send his kids to college and make sure they get healthcare

with everyone under the same umbrella, this is going to get better for the very poor, and worse for us who currently have health insurance. You can quote me on that

lol ok, so if they tax the shit out of businesses because they’re making more than 250K, who’s going to eat that increase? Either their employees or their customers… a company isn’t going to sit by and let their profit margin drop

Don’t even try to get him to understand that.

Guess who is paying for my higher property taxes?:slight_smile: