Beginner welding advice

i’m looking to start welding. have done a bit of research and realized that i don’t really have the funds or room for a gas setup.

used this website for some reference: http://www.learn-how-to-weld.com/mig-welding/gasless-mig-welder.html

i’d like to get a gasless flux core wire mig for the portability and cost. also looking for a 110V unit since i don’t have a 220V hookup in my house.

what it comes down to is brand vs cost. i’ve heard that you can find decent deals on used units on craigslist. i like the following because it comes with gloves, mask, hammer, all that, but i don’t like how it’s Chicago Electric (presumably Harbor Freight brand).

http://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/2010824418.html

i have some old stainless exhaust i can practice on at first, probably can find some scrap steel to practice on as well. plan on doing mainly some stainless/mild steel exhausts in the future. no thicker than 1/4" or so.

my questions:

given that criteria, am i looking for the right type of welder?

should i keep looking for used stuff on craigslist, or is there something new that would be a better buy?

looking for some educated opinions. thanks in advance.

Gas setups aren’t that large. I had mine on a cart with a small tank and it didn’t take up much room. Tank lasted a long time too.

DO NOT BUY HARBOR FREIGHT JUNK

I REPEAT, DO NOT BUY HARBOR FREIGHT JUNK

Lincoln makes a great beginner unit and anything from Miller is gonna be a great machine as well.

I ended up paying around 400 from a used milller welder. Mine was a 220v but they do make smaller units that will work on 110v. Just buy something decent, don’t think that you can ‘make it work’. Good welders can barely make those pieces of shit work, let alone a clueless noob. Having a good machine will be crucial to the learning process.

would appreciate opinions on these.

http://rochester.craigslist.org/tls/2010709633.html

http://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/1970720758.html

that second one is most likely sold, but the first one is still available.

edit: added this one too.

http://rochester.craigslist.org/tls/2006759159.html

Save up more money and buy something decent, it’ll save you huge headaches later on. I wouldn’t consider anything but a Miller or Lincoln (possibly Hobart too).

I don’t know anything about the craftsman, the lincoln is a good machine

spend the money, get a miller, dont learn on junk.

i think i got about 1200- 1400 total into mine.

I LOVE it.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj47/billkarter/CIMG1767.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj47/billkarter/CIMG1769.jpg

I had a millermatic 175

that thing rocked

While i’d love to rock a top of the line machine, I’m a college student for a bit longer so I can’t really drop a grand or more on that. Looking to spend less than 400.

save your pennies, dont waste them. wait till you have at least 750 saved up.

you can do well on that budget, just stick to the well known name brands

I paid $400 for my millermatic 175 (used)

I bought this:
http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?65814-FS-Lincoln-Welder-WeldPak-100-Model-K587-1&highlight=weldpak

It worked fine for my exhaust tubing. I want a better one, but it did what I needed it to do.

Welding is all about practice. Knowing what to do is not that hard, but doing it right can be a PITA.
I still suck at welding and I really want a better one, but I have nothing special to weld any time soon, so i’ll just wait.

You might also want to look into taking a class of some sort… Burn through a ton of material on better equipment with someone else helping to pay for it.

Your not going to be able to weld stainless with the cheaper flux core welders. I would suggest looking at auctions for businesses/schools/boces clearing out. I used this site-http://www.auctionsinternational.com/index.htm and got a nice tig for less than 500 including everything. The unit that Karter has is actually very well priced and great for anything you will ever need beginner/home/small business wise.

i recommend lincoln, they can be found for good deals used

You wont be able to use flux cored because of the heat. For exhaust, especially stainless you will want TIG. TIG is a bit harder to learn but really the best way to do it by far. This seems perfect for you http://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/2013902153.html

You definitely don’t NEED a TIG welder for welding exhausts

I picked up a nearly new Miller 135 110V welder on CL for $400 with cart, helmet, gloves and tank 3/4 full and a spool of wire. Definitely sone decent deals out there on good machines.

Buffalo Public Schools has a night welding class. I dunno how long it is or what it cost but its something you might want to look into. Boces too.

^^^ very interesting. Might have to look into that after I graduate in december.

I must be missing these deals but ill keep my eyes open. If anyone wants to post up a link they see, feel free.

I have a lincoln weld-pak 110 converted to mig, so it’s got the tank. Small unit so it’s portable and doesn’t take up much room when it’s stored. It does everything I need it to, I made my own exhaust, welded 1/4 panels, made some shelving etc etc. Since it’s kinda small you have to be a little more careful with things that may seem obvious to pro welders but weren’t obvious to me. For example you can’t have it plugged into an extension cord, even a heavy rated one as it loses too much amperage and you’ll get a shitty weld. Its nearly impossible to weld when there’s any wind because the gas gets blown from the weld or some shit, whatever the reason your welds don’t penetrate in the wind. Those are a couple tips I learned the hard way.

don’t rush into it, just wait for the right deal!