Dever, CO Legalizes the Mary Jane

billions of dollars in money saved in the legal system from no longer having to arrest, prosecute, incarcerate pot offenders.

billions of dollars in tax revenue on pot.

millions of non violent drug offenders dont go to jail for simply posessing pot

police can focus more manpower on real crime

thousands of drug dealers immediately put out of business

people no longer have to get pot from dealers that expose them to hard drugs

otherwise straight kids dont lose the opportunity to go to college

people are just a little bit more free in these times when our freedoms and privacy are vanishing left and right.

I’m done with this fucking conversation. Your a fucking loser with some of the dumbest ideas in the world and it always pertains to what is “against the grain”. You are the type of asshole that tries to tell people the sky is purple then comes up with apple and orange comparisions to try and fucking twist the view into your favor, weather or not you have proof. I don’t care if you think its fucking funny and its only the internet.

I have had enough conversations with people on this board about you and they say you may be smart but have no concept of reality. I don’t even give you that much credit.

This June when I’m down in OC, I’m telling you don’t fucking come near me because I won’t be passive and ignore you like this past summer.

Now go fist yourself cocksucker.

its illegal now so why open the door to more abuse just because its legal now.

you kow what Jim, start posting links, if the shit is coming from high times type sites you can go fist yourself as well…

SNS thinks inside the box too much

i dont even know what high times link is :greddy:

what would the difference make any ways, if CNN said or GWB

awww. this is so cute. The annual mid-winter “SNS is gonna beat me up the next time he sees me…which is 8 months away” because he tried to get into an intellectual conversaion with me and got his ass schooled post.

:rofl:

www.mikeandjimspotfarm.com?
because obviously you two are pot gurus and are really twisted :rolleyes:

millions of people do it now. the law does not work. it does not keep ANYONE that wants to smoke it from smoking it. so wouldnt the real question be why do we keep fighting this pointless, unwinnable war on a foe that isnt even dangerous?

its really amazing how mad SNS gets when you throw a little bit of reason in his face.

yes, quite amazing

Your not showing posting any reasoning asshat…

Reasoning includes looking at the negitives as well as the positives and making a real world decision. Not saying

"you can tax it

and uhh
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Oh yeah the cops can concentrate on real crimes.

And oh yeah you can tax it…"

No because then what ever law enforment agency is going to have to enforce BS with people like you who think well I’ll just grow my own…

People are still going to grow there own and sling it on the streets because it can be sold cheeper that way than buying the new and imporved garbage the government is going to tax to high hell.

I’m not the person with a limited view on the topic, you fucktards are. So keep comparing pot to cheeseburgers because its evident you are are high and can’t even come up with a good argument other than making off basis comparisons.

yeah and wha about the people that make theri own beers, make their own wine, make moonshine and shit like that? i havent seen a person get busted because they have their own brewery in house. have you? you need to get out of this norrow minded elitist prick syndrome youve had since youve come here. i mean seriosly SNS is always right and pittspeed should just bow down.

get the fuck over yourself and look at the bigger picture.

Now its filled with people defending there selves on growing there own with out some type of permit or stamp and then selling it.

billions of dollars in tax revenue on pot.

Off set by the Billions spend on healthcare realted illnesses. For christ sake there is a campain against smoking you think Pot is going to help the cause?

millions of non violent drug offenders dont go to jail for simply posessing pot

Now they are in jail for distributing their own pot with out a licence. I can’t sell alcohol with out a liquor licence what makes think you can grow and distribute your own? Which WILL happen because people are always tring to save a buck. This goes back to supply and demand which you already proved you have no concept over in the Gas price thread.

police can focus more manpower on real crime

Worng now they have to worry about new laws to enforce when it would happen. They ar not just going to legalize post and say “Smoke up” and thats the last you hear about it.

thousands of drug dealers immediately put out of business

Wrong, Durg dealers will make even more because there shit is cheeper than the governmet controlled weed because its not taxed. Yeah I can see it now, “welp they sell it at the store I’ll just close shop”…please buy a fucking clue.

people no longer have to get pot from dealers that expose them to hard drugs

Its not just the dealers its the people themselves. If people smoke enough of it and they need a fix they will move to other things when it doesn’t quite give them the same effect anymore.

otherwise straight kids dont lose the opportunity to go to college

Give me a fucking break. This is as bad as people that are 35 blaming their problems on their parents…

Christ don’t give me that bullshit, because you have no fucking room to talk.

you people with this fucking pot kick are the one who are narrow minded, You think they are going to legalize it and legailze like YOU FUCKERS think it should be. Got news for you, there would be restrictions and you assholes would still do shit the way you want to regardless of the new guidlines.

Stop being so fucking nieve…

Case in point Street racing, they make tracks to do these kind of activities to move it away from the street yet you still do it on the street.

umm i dont race on the street

and next i dont smoke pot. i could really care less if it was legal or not. if alcohol was illegal the same shit would still be happening but with something else.

I didn’t actually mean you specifically street race, I’m saying its the same fucking mentality in general. Correct word in that statement should have been “People”.

I need to smoke a huge bong to even care about this thread

do you really think that pot did not lead to acid use. and pot is also in the same catagory as pot so can have the same effect down the line.

Tom Chong can’t talk straight…good example idiot

willie nelson also can’t talk straight.

Was the virgin mary a TOKER?

Jerusalem, A thriving Bronze Age drug trade supplied narcotics to
ancient cultures throughout the eastern Mediterranean as balm for the
pain of childbirth and disease, proving a sophisticated knowledge of
medicines dating back thousands of years, researchers say.

Ancient Ceramic pots, most of them nearly identical in shape and about
five inches long, have been found in tombs and settlements throughout
the Middle East, dating as far back as 1400 B.C., said Joe Zias, an
anthropologist at Jerusalem=92s Hebrew University.

The drugs were probably used as medicine, and the finds are helping
researchers better understand how ancient people treated illness and
disease.

=93It=92s a window to the past that many people are unaware of,=94 Zias told
a recent conference in Israel on DNA and archaeology. =93Here=92s something
used in prehistoric times, and it=92s used until today.=94

When turned upside down, the thin-necked vessels with round bases
resemble opium poppies pods. If there was any doubt about what was
inside, the round bases have white markings, designs that symbolized
knife cuts made on poppies bulbs so the white opium base can ooze and
be harvested, Zias said.

The Mycenaean ceramics were analyzed with a procedure called gas
chromatography that turned up traces of opium.

Hundreds of the pots have been found, and they commonly show up in the
hands of antiquities dealers in places like Jerusalem=92s Old City. =93Give
me an hour there and I could find you 10 of them,=94 Zias said.

PAIN RELIEVER

Based on ancient Egyptian medical writings from the 3rd millennium
B.C., researchers believe opium and hashish =97 a smokable drug that
comes from the concentrated resin from the flowers of hemp plants =97
were used during surgery and to treat aches and pains and other
ailments. Hashish was also used to ease menstrual cramps and was even
offered to women during childbirth.

Based on Egyptian writings, archaeologists believe the opium was eaten
rather than smoked.

The drugs are part of a medical record that shows the ancients were far
more advanced than most people realize, Zias said, noting evidence that
European people did cranial surgery as long as 10,000 years ago, while
the Romans left records of 120 surgical procedures.

Mark Spigelman, a Zias colleague at Hebrew University, found one of the
poppy-shaped ceramic pots from the middle Bronze Age in Siqqura, a Giza
cemetery near the pyramids outside of Cairo during a dig four years
ago. The pot, found in an Egyptian grave from the 18th Dynasty, was
identical to other pots found throughout ancient Israel and the Middle
East.

=93These guys were selling opium all over the Middle East,=94 Spigelman
said. =93This is the original Medellin cartel, 3,500 years ago,=94 he said
in a joking reference to the violent Colombian cocaine cartel.

It seems more likely, however, that the ancient trade was run by
respected healers rather than violent drug lords.

=93We know for sure these things were used for medical purposes,=94 Zias
said. =93The question is whether they were used for recreational
purposes.=94

HASHISH AIDED DELIVERY

In an archaeologically rich area of central Israel, Zias found another
clue. While excavating a tomb from the late Roman period in the town of
Beit Shemesh 10 years ago, he found the skeleton of a 14-year-old girl
who died in childbirth around A.D. 390. On her stomach was a fleck of a
burnt brownish-black substance.

=93I thought it was incense,=94 Zias said. But when he had it analyzed by
police and chemists at Hebrew University, it turned out to be a 7-gram
mixture of hashish, dried seeds, fruit and common reeds.

Seven glass vessels containing traces of the drug were found near the
skeleton. She probably used them to inhale the smoky cocktail to aid
her delivery. Medical researchers have found that other than relaxing
the user, hashish increases the force and frequency of contractions in
women giving birth; and it was used in deliveries until the 19th
century, after which new drugs were developed.

But it didnt help this girl, who was only 4 feet 6 inches tall. She
bled to death.

The drug was an extremely rare find. Organic compounds quickly decay,
but because this one had been burned it was carbonized and preserved.

=93It=92s the first time it=92s ever been found in terms of direct evidence
in an archaeological dig,=94 Zias said. =93You rarely find direct evidence
of drugs in antiquity.=94

Note: Opium, hashish traces found on ceramic pots, tomb remains.