I fully understand man. I have limited hands on tuning for bikes, but thats only by lack of work i guess I would say, only helped tune with some PC units a few years old on a 08GSXR1K, older unit on a 954, a few vtwins, etc. When a bike makes 190hp 10 whp is a decent change yes, so the necessity to be as dead on as you can is needed like you said.
Still at the end of the day, load the close enough tune, pull it and look at the charts. Circle ranges that need adjustments. do the math to see what % needs to be changed where. Load it up. Pull it again. See how close you’re estimates were and find out what the afr value has actually changed for xx% adjusted. Now you know how much each click of the mouse will actually change AFR wise and can begin to get dead on with the changes.
The only difference between a great tuner, and a good tuner that can get the same results is the great tuner has a memory bank of all the machines they tuned and has a good idea of “when i add 8% to this I will get close to this AFR value, on this bike with this stuff added to it” so it saves a little time. But the good tuner, uses his head and sticks to a definitive plan like I mentioned above and gets the same or damn close to the same results, just might take a few extra pulls.
Local tuners around here do poor work and exaggerated numbers r giving…I have place u can go but ur gonna travel alittle…
Anyone who tells u to go on a website and download a map doesn’t have a clue about tuning what so ever…NEVER DOWNLOAD A TUNE USED ON OTHER BIKES…EASY WAY TO BREAK UR SHIT
If ur gonna get a proper tune check the elevation where u live n where the tuner is also n try to get them close…if not u risk goin lean …lean melts pistons
With that being said Power Commander also makes an mini LCD screen that is plug an play and gives you a real time AFR at all times so you can keep an eye on it and also adjust the fuel tables (which I don’t recommend unless you have tuning experience)
Lol if ur running up the highway or at lvd…u think ur gonna be watchin the lcd screen? Doubt it…the three seconds u look away from it can be the three seconds it takes to melt down…if ur gonna put money n do it right u do a proper tune by a good tuner…then use a datalogger to make it perfect
It has a memory card slot and records everything so you dont have to do what you just said and look down when you’re running, after you run or get off the highway you can go back and see what your readings are, cmon now you don’t think Dynojet thought of that when they made Power Commander LOL
becasue they crank up the correction on their dyno, so the numbers inflate. Its marketing to idiots.
thats why albany speeds dyno “reads low” beasue its set to or damn close to zero. tuning aid, not dick measuring tool.
Lets all keep in mind this is a street bike, NOT behind ridden by Antron Brown. There is absolutely no reason o tune, or run a bike so close to lean that 3 seconds of a glitch in the system melts a piston, puts you on the side of the road or worse ON THE ROAD. Leave the the hell alone if you actually want to ride it and resell it later. We are not talking a highly modified track prepped bike, why are we making this out so much harder then it needs to be?
download the damn tune. Flash the close enough one on there. Pull it once. read graph, make competent decisions as to what and where to change, pull again and repeat process. then dial it back a touch for safety, peace of mind and reliability.
I have a pc3 im pretty sure…but looking at the tuning chart it has increments of 250 rpms from 500 rpms to 30000 seems fine enough tuning for a street bike. I just have alot of popping in my exhaust so im pretty sure its running rich as shit right now.