Wheres a local bike dyno I can have someone tune my power commander and see what it puts down?
Albany Speed Shop. click the sponsor link up top, or down in the classifieds.
They have a deal going this month alos, IRC.
http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=23607
- Dyno mania - Three power pulls (no AFR or ad $25 for AFR) with print outs for just $75!
Think he’s talking about a bike
troy city garage has one i think its 4 to 5 pulls for 200$
If you want a good tune and don’t mind driving to Lake Placid, Moon Performance, Taylor tuned my Power Commander V and the bike runs absolutely great, he does great work and has a lot of experience with Power Commanders.
If you MUST stay local which I don’t really recommend…Joe’s Cycles in Mechanicville would be the only other option to be honest.
brunswick harley
yes, strap it down on the mini dyno. They can dyno a lawnmower for shits sake on it! Not sure the Hp limit on it though, need to call and find out.
EDIT
Albany Speed can do it on the little dynomite, anything less then 50” track witdh, 400hp and 14,000rpm’s. Only limited by traction to rollers.
Yea mike but who’s going to tune it…
thats all? 
Yea but how much experience do they have or is anyone actually a certified Power Commander tuner there?
I know they do great work with cars but were talking high compression motor that revs out to almost 12,000, getting the fuel map right is very essential.
joes cycle , i used to work there
+1 for moon and tyler, his first passion is bikes and mostly race bikes. tuning a P.C. is his favorite type of thing to tune.
heres there site
http://www.moonperformance.com/
if you call, talk to Tyler
here is there pricing sheet
It’s Taylor…not Tyler.
No idea, the OP didnt even say what the hell the bike is. Power commanders go on everything from Ninja 250’s, CRB954’s to Harley’s…
Also, depending on the PC box, there isnt a whole lot you can tune on them… at least the few I saw on bikes like my uncles Vtwins, and other friends / family bikes. They arent full blown standalone ecus. They are more or less flash tuner piggybacks. IE, jump online and download Yoshi XXX pipe, & KN filter, etc… upload it and ride. Some have air/fuel adjustments but the one I played with was low/med/high rpm adjustments, +/- thats it. 3 adjustments for idle-redline.
All the timing, and other shit isn’t customer adjustable. again from the what I saw on a few bikes personally.
Unless the bike is a full blown racebike ridden by a GOOD rider, built motor, custom parts, etc… anything more than flash n go put it on the rollers and double check the results is a waste of time/money and wont be really usefull to a normal rider. IMO.
Need more information to continue the suggestion search for who can/should do what for the OP.
if its a newer PC3 box, they it looks like you can adjust fueling only. +/- %100 over the full range, but they dont say what the increments are. Like I said the boxes I saw in use covered the “full range” but it was in chunks of 3 layers, not like 100 rpm pieces or what ever. Irc it also had 8 throttle position columns to adjust for also.
Also in the features list it says you can trim each cylinder too. thats cool, but unless you can sniff each header pipe, thats worthless for the most part. (unless you looked at plugs or something but thats like pissing in the dark really for an EFI application)
sorry, typo… sorry
He owns the same bike as I do, so I would hope he is using a PC V and not the III and it makes a world of difference as the V is much more advanced with fine tuning then the III is. And yes they are fuel management but when you are putting exhausts and filters on a bike you want it to run at its full potential and not to rich or too lean which can happen easily on a bike, its not the same as putting an exhaust and air filter on a car.
Tuning is tuning. If the ecu your dealing with only does fuel, anyone with a well calibrated dyno/AFR read out can tune it correctly. Its not rocket science… and it is no different bike vs car vs truck vs kart vs boat vs 4 wheeler. its an engine. SURE it has twice the revs and smaller displacement where +/- a few % will make a larger difference than a large displacement slower revving motor, thats understandable. A 1000 CC motor sucking in +2% more fuel and going from 14.2 to 13.9 for example, is like a 300Ci motor which has say a 8-10% window to make the same AFR change. you can be +/- a few clicks on the V8 and not really see a change, where +/-a few click will send you off the scales on a little motor. Its simple math that proves that.
Not to mention, a quick search for GSXR1000 showed me a full page of files for different exhaust/filter combo’s Dynojet already tested for you, with their professional tuners, that I bet can out tune about any local guy around. Granted environmental changes and all effect it but it will get you more than in the ball park, if not running around the infield.
So what is this bike exactly anyways? Whats done to it? What level rider are we talking? Where do they ride? What are their goals?
I understand an engine is an engine but AFR reading from a 14.2 to a 13.7 can be the difference between 3-4whp which on a bike is noticeable. And with tuning a bike you want the AFR in the 13.3-13.7 (at least with most 1000cc bikes anyway) range as thats where there can produce max power. And those files that can be downloaded and loaded to the Power Commander are a base tune and tend to have lots of dead spots, I know you should know this but no two engines run the same and thats basically putting a tune from another bike with the same mods onto your own bike. But yes I agree it really comes down to what kind of riding he does. Just by having my Power Commander V dyno tuned I increased my overall WHP by 9.