E90/92's and the functionality of big wings

So all of you BMW lovers; this kid I know bought a 2006 or 2007 4-door 335i and he thinks by installing a large GT wing it will instantly improve handling at Lime Rock.

His mods are; Unknown brand lowering springs, new street tires, inter cooler, and 400HP reflash.

Cossey; I know you run 1-minute lap times there with no ricer wing.

A: This kid is “special” and it wouldn’t do anything.
B: This really would be functional at Lime Rock.
C: The new Euro kids have taken the place of the Honda owner.

Bimmer World carbon aero or some other offname/APR crap?

The first yeah, it works, the latter not so sure about that :slight_smile:

The real question is whether or not he’s a good enough driveer to actually NEED the wing in the first place. AKA, goes fast enough to require it…

I will give my opinion that (with out ever driving or owning one of these cars - E9x):

A: This kid is “special” and it wouldn’t do anything (that he’ll notice- basically same as Adam said)

20-years old, never been on a track. Also owns a spray painted E30 with a fuel cell, replica CCWs that rub on the ebay coilovers, and a home made roll cage and with that he automatically classifies the car as a race car.

In my eyes I see better coilovers, better tires, and corner weighting/proper alignment being more beneficial than slapping on a $150 eBay GT wing to “make it faster”.

lol, in that case no it won’t do a damn lick of good for him.

Aero is entirely pointless as his assumed level of driving/purpose for the car. He’ll learn that if he ever actually does a DE

I can’t fucking wait for May 10th.

Now that someone answered the question for real, and I don’t feel like such a douche putting this thread off topic…

Option C - Because Benny’s race car.

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Please tell me this kid didn’t sign up for the Patroon event…

It won’t do any good. The E90 can’t get up to the proper cornering speeds for a wing that size to come into effect. The reason those wings exist are for cars that can corner at speed such as in the ALMS or GrandAm racing series. Without the proper tires, suspension, brakes, etc…there would be no reason for the car to have a wing. If anything, it would produce more front end lift and the car would be horrendous under braking.

Please God no. :banghead

Which is 100% not true. What Boxersix stated is what matters the most, a properly designed element.

Does he need the wing, hell no.

With the equipment that he has, there is no way that he can achieve speeds that would benefit a GT wing. Wings of that nature are meant for cornering, without the proper equipment (which he doesn’t have) he won’t be able to use it effectively.

and what speeds do you think he needs to reach in order to gain benefit?

In what type of corner? The fast sweeper at Lime Rock, or something like turn 1?

All he would need is an M3 rear lip in my opinion. The car doesn’t have a front splitter or under body, and that would help his cause.

It’s entirely based on airflow over and under the car. For this example however, we would be discussing the over aspect.

All the large rear wing would do would be to create drag because the car isn’t as streamlined as something such as a GT car in the ALMS series. It’s all up to how well you can make a car move through the air that it’s pushing around.

gt wing wont help unless it’s accompanied by a roof spoiler also, and a diffuser thats a universal ebay jump off.

:ninja

He’ll be at a few Lime Rock events as well as LVD drift events.

If you have Facebook and drive a BMW, prepare to be BFFs.

uhh

if hes trying to drift an e90 335 at lvd…hes gonna have a bad time.

I need this to go with it.