Pontiac Vibe
Cadillac CTS and STS
Holden Cruze
Opel Insignia
Saab 9-3
Chrysler 300 and Sebring
Dodge Avenger and Charger
Ford Fusion and Taurus
Mercury Sable and Milan
Volvo S40, S60 and S80
What are you just saying?
Which company are you comparing it to? Audi, Subaru or something else?
Toyota has 1 car, the Matrix built next to the Vibe.
Edit: Lexus also has the IS 250 and LS
Well the car part is not true…but uneducated is a different story.
I swear when I read a post from you or Just Karter I am more retarded.
^ Haha
Is this is FBody winter drama in its most elemental form… A discussion on GM Bankruptcy???
Ford has been ok in the stock market lately. It must be that child key technology that is coming out. Lol.
No, it’s Microsoft Sync. That will single handedly restore the automotive market in America.
“Radio. Play Michael Bolton.”
^lol
and no ive never been in the market for an american car. ive owned 3 (all of which were given to my by my dad), and hated every last one of them. from the interior to the drive train to the reliability and maintenance.
as far as sporty low maintnece reliable compacts go… usdm cars suck.
now if i was in the market for a mini van, suv, or truck it would be a whole diffrent story…
Not as of late…
Look at the Cobalt SS, SRT-4 etc.
Makes me wonder which cars you got from your dad. I’m sure they were '80s POS cars, which have nothing to do with what’s being made today…
See below (post #74)
arent you the acne prone kid at advance who was there the other day? me and my buddy walked in you whispered something to the girl at the counter and went and hid in back, youd have much trouble knockign me out btw
fusion is not awd, ford has the taurus, 500, edge, escape,
i honestly bet that my truck would outlast your car, just from the fact that its in good condition and the motors are known to go to 250-300k if well maintained where as your car and its cheap materials will be rotted completely out in about 6 years and it costed me about 22,000 less and i still pull more tail in it then you do in your car , so id reconsider the failing at life comment and look in a mirror - directed towards cky89
I’m hearing talks of a possible GM & Chrysler merger…
Saw some of that too. Here’s an article from the times; http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/business/11auto.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Wall Street Journal article about GM and Chrysler talks.
next time you come into my work im going to knock you out and lose my job.
it will be well worth it.
What’s interesting in this is that Cerberus already owns 51% of GMAC… so I wonder how much of a meltdown this would really cause.
And besides, this would create a hell of an overlap in product lines (Jeep vs. Hummer for example), dealerships, etc… and not in a good way.
Oh, and I wonder if Congress would go for it, and how the UAW would take this, especially since there’d be a push to dump more “excess production overcapacity”.
Of course, with GM’s Market Cap around $3 billion, it’s probably fairly easy for Cerberus to “take GM private” by shedding off certain parts of Chrysler & using that to do a leveraged buyout of what’s there with GM (sorta like what happened with K-Mart and Sears).
Ford is considering selling it’s 1/3 stake in mazda while GM is considering a merger to get another shitty brand. :bloated:
GM needs less brands, not more.
At least Ford is doing something to give them a little cash.
I agree 100% with you, GM has one of the highest quality rating in the world now (finally!) and makes awesome product, they do not need to add Chrysler. I don’t think Chrysler would be helping them at all since they are already giving vehicles away and still can’t sell them.