God I love when shit finally starts showing up...

NYSpeed Automotive
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LOL, JNJ, you are a douche. Your soul purpose is to TRY and make me look stupid. Unfortunately, you just come off as a peice of shit when I throw your stupidity back in your face. Show me all of the fuel pumps you want, and I’ll show you a flow sheet that makes anything you show me fucking useless. What a Pump manufacturer chooses to use on their pumps is their business, and has a lot more to do with cutting machining costs and compatibility with their other products and products from others than anything else.

While you are running your mouth, why dont you show everyone the Aeromotive A1000 Regulator sized to match the A1000 pumps that use all -6 AN INLETS AND OUTLETS. Whats that? Yeah, a SIX. Because even a SIX can flow 330 GPH at 15 ft/sec! If you had a brain, you would know that flow through a hose has just as much to do with velocity as it does ID. How about the Paxton Booster pumps made by Walbro? Yeah, 1000 HP out of a 5/16 ID hose- all because of increased velocity.

And BSFC? what- did you have to go to the injector sizing page on RC Engineering’s website to figure out what that was? Of course they are all different- but in a FI engine, ROUGHLY- AS I SAID FUCKSTICK, 1 GPH= 10 HP. If you knew math, you could go right back to that aeromotive website, take that A1000 that flows 600 lbs per hour, change that to GPH, and find out that its about 75 GPH… at 800 HP for FI EFI… Hmm… 800/75 is pretty close to 10 last I checked. Of course efficiency will drop of as power increases- but I said ROUGHLY, and that was also at that GIVEN velocity- velocities are VARIABLE, unlike your intelligence- its always low. (Edit: fuel weighs a little less than I figured off the top of my head, 600 lbs hour= ~92 GPH. 800/92= 8.7 HP/GPH. Still close to 10 for a “Normal” BSFC in the .5 range…this calculated HP would be putting it in the .6-.7 range…which makes sense becuase it is the FI rating. If I put it back to NA figures, it all makes sense as a normal too…so my point is proved either way)

“some of these fancy fuel pumps are rated at zero pressure or much lower pressure than 70 psi.”

Yeah, SOME of them. Am I talking about SOME of them? NO. I am talking about the pump I have- Which I have a flow sheet for. Even the flow sheet says your an idiot- right on the front, I swear.

Dont feel bad poor JNJ. you may have been working on cars for 12 years, but I am going to surpass everything you have ever done on this SINGLE project, in 1/3 that amount of time.

See you on the streets… err, jackstands.

This thread WAS civil until you showed up… why dont you do everyone a favor and DISAPPEAR. I have tried to be a contributing member of this site, and I stay out of other peoples shit. You on the other hand keep trying…successful only at showing your ignorance, stupidity, and hatred for some reason…

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I dont know what to believe anymore

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Just trying to clear up the mindless shit you put out there. First you call -10AN overkill, then you tell me 800 HP / 75 GPH = ~10 HP.

So by your mindless banter 10 HP * 200 GPH = ~2000 HP. You don’t have a chance in hell at making that type of horsepower so isn’t your pump overkill??

You mean Aeromotive #13101 with 2 -10AN inlet ports, one -6AN return
http://216.242.145.16/products/prod_imgs//img-11-1-small.jpg

The BSFC comment makes you look very stupid:
1 BSFC = 1 lb of fuel to make 1 HP per hour

My suggestion when building a fuel system don’t listen to Mr. Lesser because you will cost yourself a lot of money. Give Aeromotive, Earl’s, Russel, Aeroquip a call. Place that actually have professional engineers working for them

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LOL, you just talk out of your ass.

You have no idea what I am doing, and I will leave the first part at that.

And By the way, My Flow Chart IS Aeroquip, and Aeromotive pumps DO suck, they burn out quite often- so heres to your engineers that know what they are doing. :beer2:I also trust the manufacturer of this pump just a little bit more than manufacturers of any of the pumps you listed… there is a reason they are known to make the best fuel pumps out- HANDS DOWN.

PS- it came machined for -8 AN fittings DICK.

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Actually, I was talking about THIS one, if you opened your eyes, it comes BOTH ways:

http://216.242.145.16/products/prod_imgs//img-10-1-small.jpg

PS- BSFC comment makes me look stupid how…? Um, it IS indeed on that website, and used for the calculation of injector sizes. But you already knew that- cause you know everything. I know what it means, and I know how it is used. Dont need a lesson, thanks.

You have yet to PROVE me wrong (becuase you know you cant actually do that…unless you know how to break the laws of physics), you just spew “he-said, she-said, they-did facts”…then when I come back at you with CALCULATIONS, you spout off with the “your stupid” routine. I honestly dont know why you have it out from me in a threatening manner. Are you that dumb to think I am any kind of a threat to your “business”? Face it- I wont touch Camaros and other LS1 and LT1 powered cars, and you wont be touching Vipers. We have nothing to do with each other, and it will stay that way. Your pissing contests are not unlike those of our very own POLITICIANS and LAWYERS. Try to make the other guy look bad- just throw out claims and hope people listen. Never back it up though.

I said it before and I will say it again, you have no idea what I am doing, no idea what I am capable of, and you certainly underestimate how much you piss me off. Every wise crack you make just adds another buslength onto the extreme ass-kicking that ANYTHING you have built will get. And unlike you, when I get to see that look on your face, (or not, I am not dropping by your house to pick you up so you have a ride to the “race”) I get to know that I did it with not only a package that I built, but one that I DESIGNED- from scratch. No “off the shelf” setups here.

Alright…I am going to go do something other than argue in the Special Olympics.

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Your comments are useless. Most of the bad stories on the Aeromotive pumps are from stupid people like yourself who run them on the street without a pump controller, or step down the line size and restrict the flow. Both which cause the pump to heat up and eventually fail. I love how you get all mad when I am just giving people FACTS instead of your inaccurate figures

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:smash2: ha… you were so right.

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This is like HBO porn. JnJ, if I was you I’d just sit around and wait until something went wrong, but at least you’re nice and offer your…advice…before. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Yeah whatever, no hate here. Just facts. :smash2:

-10 AN line will NOT SUPPORT 3300 HP at 45-70 psi fuel pressure
-8 AN line is good for maybe a max of 1200 HP if you have a strong enough pump to run elevated fuel pressure

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I’m curious, what is your experience with 1200HP cars?

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If you want to go and figure the facts on this… refer to Mr. Daniel Bernoulli.

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Actually it was Euler who first delved into it. :wink:

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1200 HP none, but close to 1000 hp 2 cars, which is between 850-925 whp with a TH400 or powerglide. One car is tuned and the other I sold an upper end package and complete fuel system.

Yuck no more fluid mechanic for me. I mean you didn’t have to ask a caveman how fire worked, he just knew it worked. Just like I know -10AN isn’t overkill for a 1000 flywheel HP car. Simple facts

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Oh then I guess I wouldn’t take your advice with a grain of salt, exactly. :wink:

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that’s true… but Bernouli perfected it for incompressable fluids…which gasoline is… so his principle applies more directly then Euler who primarily delt with compressible fluids… like air.

c’mon…back on topic here

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what do u know about buildinga 1000hp car Mr. Goober

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That’s irrelevant because I didn’t propose advice to somebody that wanted to build one. :slight_smile:

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i was just asking

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suggesting a different setup is one thing, attacking someone and stating that they know nothing is great too i suppose

informative info nonetheless :shrug:

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I suppose he could have used more tact in his posts in this thread. :frowning: