Hosting software?

Actually they love it.

I actually had 20 people on a Cpanel server that I moved to this and they think its great. :slight_smile:

Maybe I just have sweet customers and don’t deal with whiny people.

They have their webmail client, PHPMyAdmin, Stats reporting, and database management. They don’t need Fantistico and a bunch of other bloated shit to install scripts that are buggy and behind the recent versions.

Oh come to think of it, I think I have a spare Cpanel or DA license somewhere. The DA might be a lifetime one if you are interested LZ.

Whether your customers love it or not, it’s definitely going to hurt your company’s growth in the long run. If you plan on marketing to the internet crowd, it’s something to consider.

I’m not a fan of cPanel either…personally, I think it’s cluttered and way too resource heavy. DA on the other hand can be really good if you give it a nice skin.

That is the difference. Instead of saying “YOu should do this becuase I do” you need to understand the company and the situation each person is in. Each cpanel has an application for its users. General internet hosting newbies love cpanel cus its easy and is the buzz word.

My customer base is 20 people. I have no website. Do no marketing. Handle all support calls on my cell phone and email and people are very happy and that is how I grew becuase people simply called me from hearing from my friends and clients.

My market isn’t internet newbies who want to host their own websites for their clans or something. Its companies and organizations who need a presence and don’t want to manage anything themselves and pay me to or know exactly what they need to do and just need a space to host it.

Well, if they don’t want to manage anything themselves, then I guess it’s just you that actually uses the ISPConfig. In that regard, carry on.

lol drama

I manage 5 of my 20 sites myself. The other 15 do just fine with it and like it. Still waiting for a solid reason why its a bad solution for a small company.

Its been stable, does exactly what I need minus some billing and invoicing features, and saves me money on licensing :slight_smile:

Side note: LZ, you ever built clustered solution that can do rsync backups? I have maybe 50 servers as of right now that are looking into this solution.

:lol: I’m sure we could figure it out…

Right now I am playing with OpenVZ and HyperVM

play nice children

LZ uses the :lol: in EVERY post he makes

:tup:

I am always laughing

Haha I have two VMs running in VMware tryong to figure it out.

Pretty much a lot of people (50 +) who have small hosting companies want to backup their stuff and not pay for another server. It would need secure backups to the “cloud” on a server by server basis.

OpenVZ is pretty cool. Got that with VTONF as the graphical front end and it runs pretty slick. Still gotta look at a VM platform to market for the new VPS servers I am going to offer soon so let me know what you find.

You’re going to get hammered on bandwidth usage though…

Well rsync will only sync changes to a file.

If the file is a 400MB file and only a little bit changes, it only syncs the changes AFAIK.

Also, I have some unmetered providers that can help out on this so that would be a fixed cost if it does grow.

You want to distribute the load across multiple servers? multiple locations?

Get an account at BQBackup and see if you can figure out what they do?

http://www.bqbackup.com/

It’s extremely simple to use scp or rsync to back up to a remote location crontab a simple script…Providing them with an easy to way access backed up data if they are less then technical is :tif:

rsync is stupid easy

SFTP can be used to retrieve the files. It doesn’t take THAT much technical knowledge to operate an FTP client…I hope

I think a sysadmin should be doing most everything at the commandline :wink: Our control panels are for our clients :smiley:

Oh shit. We just managed to do it. We have a 1TB server in Houston that has a rsync to my main server and then have a client using the same server as theirs.

Everything is based on the unix user so quota, password, ftp, etc. Fucking awesome.

Only hurdle is building a cloud of servers that mirror the software between all them.

…well… I know some admins that are using webmin

pretty pathetic especially with the security risks running it on every server. There are some hack admiins out there.