I just lost my largest customer to China.

[Blue_Eyed_Devil]

@d3x

fortunately for the machine shop i work for, China’s quality issues and the outsourcing thats causing our competition to close their doors are the main reasons we are flourishing. you cant skimp on quality on equipment like this…

Yeah but you can on airplanes. Strange huh.

[traumadog]

It’s all about variables in cost and engineering. Some things are better done in the US - namely short-turnaround, high complexity design and machining work, etc.

Mind you, many “high-quality” things are made in China, too. Example: how many people consider their iPods a POS?

[fairgentleman_Z]

@d3x

you cant skimp on quality on equipment like this…

sure you can the end product will still be rubble…

I just love it bean counters and…

[Violator]

@Jagermeister

I’m not going to bother getting into it, but you can’t blame the Asian countries. The blame is solely within our own country.

Exactly. We have morons running this country.

[Dr.Stevil]

@traumadog

how many people consider their iPods a POS?

I do :redface:

[Nikuk]

The question is more about how often will you have to service the machine that makes the rubble… lol

[Nikuk]

@traumadog

Mind you, many “high-quality” things are made in China, too. Example: how many people consider their iPods a POS?

Are we talking about average consumers? Or people that stop to consider this topic?

Eitherway, I do - and I refuse to own one.

[Geehee]

@Nikuk

Are we talking about average consumers? Or people that stop to consider this topic?

Eitherway, I do - and I refuse to own one.

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[d3x]

@AWDrifter

Yeah but you can on airplanes. Strange huh.

apparently downtime for airlines is less costly to the company than downtime for mining companies.

[Fry]

@traumadog

Mind you, many “high-quality” things are made in China, too. Example: how many people consider their iPods a POS?

[Blue_Eyed_Devil]

@Eazy716

not to be devils advocate here, but you guys realise why jobs are being outsourced, right?

businesses are cutting costs as much as possible, and when someone can provide the same thing for half or more than half the cost, it makes business sense…especially if that business is an international entity.

i work for one of the largest financial institutions in the world, and guess what my job is…global resourcing. its truely my job to outsource jobs. now I will also say that in the 3 years i’ve been doing this, we have added about 500 jobs in India, and 100 in Philippines, BUT have not once cut an employee here to do so. The main key is an effective balance. We continue to grow in India and the Philippines, but dont get any smaller here in the US.

and I can also tell you that alot of jobs will end up coming back here someday. Those countries that everyone is running to, to create cheaper labor are starting to realise they can charge more for their services, and they keep going up. So at some point in time, I believe alot of the jobs will come back simply because those countries will out-price their value. And obviously not immediately, could take a good deal of time, but I still see it happening at some point in time.

I can’t believe I forgot to mention that back a few years ago when the manufacturing jobs were leaving people were saying, “Don’t worry about manufacturing jobs, we can all work in the service sector.”
Fast forward to your post.
Bank jobs going over seas.
I just had to mention that, I am not blaming anyone, just pointing out the facts.

[Eazy716]

yup, sad reality unfortunately

[traumadog]

@Fry

LOL - ok. But Apple does own 70% of the market for portable music players… and that was facilitated by the use of Chinese manufacturing.

And then again, one other thing that this recession has helped - it’s made the dollar’s value tank (record lows against the Euro and Yen), which means that America is becoming a global “low-cost producer”… so much so that VW is thinking of building plants in the US.

Unfortunately, China pegs its currency to the dollar, so there’s no help there.

[TrueBlue]

Good and scary read so far.

[Nikuk]

@traumadog

LOL - ok. But Apple does own 70% of the market for portable music players… and that was facilitated by the use of Chinese manufacturing.

And then again, one other thing that this recession has helped - it’s made the dollar’s value tank (record lows against the Euro and Yen), which means that America is becoming a global “low-cost producer”… so much so that VW is thinking of building plants in the US.

Unfortunately, China pegs its currency to the dollar, so there’s no help there.

Apples market share is more the result of marketing then it is of chinese manufacturing.

There is no astounding profit made on the equipment itself.

[Cavi_Mike]

@Eazy716

its truely my job to outsource jobs.

Wow. Scumbag Americans really will do anything to fill their wallets. Don’t ever let me run into you.

[Jam]

im just here to say ipods are gay

[Nikuk]

@Cavi Mike

Wow. Scumbag Americans really will do anything to fill their wallets. Don’t ever let me run into you.

Americans who are obsessed with their bottom line are the main reason that jobs have to be outsourced.

[Eazy716]

@Cavi Mike

Wow. Scumbag Americans really will do anything to fill their wallets. Don’t ever let me run into you.

yes, you’re right, shame on me for having a good job. If you worked in my company I’d send your job tomorrow. oh noez internet threats

[Eazy716]

@Cavi Mike

Wow. Scumbag Americans really will do anything to fill their wallets. Don’t ever let me run into you.

oh ya…and you must not have read the sentence following the one you decided to quote

@Eazy716

its truely my job to outsource jobs. now I will also say that in the 3 years i’ve been doing this, we have added about 500 jobs in India, and 100 in Philippines, BUT have not once cut an employee here to do so.