Yeah, the new DSG cars accelerate faster than the manual cars, even without the euro “launch program”. Only thing a stick shft would really give you is the ability to do a burnout, which if it’s that important to you, you’re probably not driving a honda. Oh and Toyota > honda. Mazda> honda. Nissan > honda.
Yeah they took out the launch thing
the american dsg also shifts at a low rpm too stateside (according to eurotuner)
yep, i want one.
If i move to a state where they sell new TDIs, i am getting a DSG trans. it gets better fuel economy, and seems perfect for my daily driving tasks. Although I agree that true enthusiast driving requires a third pedal, for a super efficient daily, I’ll take the technology.
as for this super jetta thing, I’d bet a bagel that it will never happen. the way that car is outfitted, it would cost upwards of $50,000
and who buys a VW for performance anyway?
slightly used Porsche 911 > silly uber jetta
how does it revmatch down shifts?
the throttle is drive-by-wire. so when u hit the downshift paddle, it blips the throttle perfectly during the really fast shift.
i wish i could find the original article the vwvortex did on it.
wow, thats pretty sweet
but do the power windows work?
So far, people have not generally flocked to every car with a high perfromance/price ratio. Some have been sucessful, others less so. The most prominent examples of high performance/$$$ from the nineties that weren’t great commercial successes are the turbo Eclipse and the 4th gen. F bodiy. Neither was a perfect car, but both were very high on the performance/$$$ scale. And neither sold particularly well. If perfromance/$$$ were the be all and end all for most buyers, no one would buy anything more expensive than a C6 Z06.
That VW does look nice, BTW.
I’d own a well done SMG any day.
They only roll down. not up In all fairness this car will more than likely never be produced BUT the widebody kit for the toureg = stock oem vw part as of now.
DSG with dual clutches > *
This is Porsche technology used in a VW.
yea, but the clips break on the windows and they just drop down into the frame after about a year. then it rains. true story. it’s what happens when you have a gf with a temper problem. you sell your jetta and get a honda, or you dump her and get a calmer gf. i digress. sorry.
I am pretty sure porsche had nothing to do with the dsg tranny
Alright pretty sure, Porsche’s version is called the PDK and will be offered in a six or seven speed version in the new 911 turbo.
The reason porsche is getting a version of it’s own is because they recently bought a large chunk of the VAG. The actual design of the tranny was made by VW hence getting awards for it. For more information on DSG click here and scroll down like half the page.
No Porsche has used a system similar to DSG in their race cars for the past 20 years which is now trickling down to the consumer level. It even references the use of this transmission in the VWVortex article you posted in which they mention that its a “direct result of racing technology from 20 years ago coming down to consumer levels”. What racing has VW done? Its Porsche technology. Porsche introduced tiptronic back in the early 90’s and VW and Audi had it in their cars in the late 90’s. Now the dual clutchg DSG/PDK idea is being used in consumer vehicles.
Yes the technology may have been pioneered by porsche and It has come from racing but the acctual design of the DSG tranny is all vw. Was there some sharing of information between the companies, probably as the companies have always been rather “close”. Your link does nothing but proves my point even more.
The PDK (german), it English it would be PDC(S), is indeed similar to the DSG system VW/Audi uses for their cars but it is not the same system. Porsche apparently has developped a similar system based on DSG and their “old” well known PDK system which was available on older 911 models a few decades ago. First introduction of this system should be with the 997 Turbo, there are rumors that a similar system (more likely a DSG adaptation to keep cost low) will be available for the Boxster and Cayman too. It may take unitl MY 2008 until we see the first Boxsters equipped with PDK but it may take even longer.
Seems to me that porsche is the one borrowing technology not the other way around. As for what racing vw has ever done maybe you should look into a little car called the Audi R8
All I’m saying is that this original idea isn’t a VW idea. VW has its ‘version’ called DSG. Based on pricing I wouldn’t expect VW to offer the same transmission as Porsche :smash2:
Nor would I expect Porsche to put a VW product in its car.
Mentioning Audi’s A8 and claiming that as a VW race product is a stretch. I realize the companies VW is associated with - Seat, Lamborghini, Bentley, Audi, Buggati & now Porsche
Yeah you are right the a8 doesn’t count, because its not even what I said nor is it a race car :smash2: .Based on your logic everyone is ripping shit off of Karl benz since he invented the internal combustion engine. But no that is not how TECHNOLOGY works. Someone invents a standard, people use it and then expand on it to create better products. You are right porsche made the first tiptronic tranny, BUT THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DESIGN OF THE DSG TRANNY. The dual clutches and everything is all a VW/AUDI product. VW does ALOT of racing with ALL of their brands so stop assuming shit.