I’ve tried to stay out of this but that’s seriously what you’re going to argue? Of all the time I have known you I would never expect you to take this viewpoint on suicide, unless of course you’re just trying to play devils advocate. But seriously, you’re arguing in favor of suicide? Life is FAR more than just about you and only you and suicide except in extreme circumstances is unjustifiable, in my opinion. I think hotwheels and a few others in this thread and on shift epitomize that, they have been through far greater hard ships than you or I and yet they push on and sure seem to enjoy what they are able to get out of life and the relationships they have made.