ding ding ding. right on the head.
I don’t think the union is going anywhere, how could it when they protected the union and all the bullshit overhead it causes??? the UAW was one of obama’s largest supporters… are you surprised he’s keeping them paid with our money??? At least they started to take some hits, but boo hoo to me about your vacation time and overtime pay raises when the government if force feeding money into GM so that union workers can stay on the clock :jerkit: they should be happy to still have grossly overpaid jobs that killed the company to begin with. I’m sorry you no longer have free dental coverage… welcome to the real world of having to pay for shit yourself when times are tough.
you are such a whiney little cunt.
haha… please explain why some other car companies aren’t falling apart from the inside out. I’m just happy i never bought a GM product… aren’t you?
actually I agree with you totally, just wanted to see how pissed off I could get you after that rant. :kekegay:
And my Vette is a piece of shit, but from 15’ away it looks cool and it goes fast/handles good/stops well and it was cheap. I’m a fucking whore I will go wherever I can get the best bang for the buck.
well yeah, it’s not like the cars are going anywhere (other than scrap yards just like when GM was open for business :kekegay: ) but the reality is that we bailed out a Union and now the company is government controlled, so they can make garbage “green” cars and source and build them in the US and A… it was even a UAW quote that they weren’t going to let GM build over seas in low-cost factories… so not only will the new cars be beat, they will be worth nothing because they are already overpriced before manufacturing them! awesome!
This is why I differ with Ron Paul on free trade. There’s no way American companies can compete with overseas slave labor. The UAW was certainly one of the contributing factors to GM’s fall from grace. But this UAW ownership interest cound work out positively… now they will actually have to give a shit whether the company makes a profit or not instead of just making sure that they get theirs and let all of the other chips fall where they may.
Maybe this will lead to them shitcanning the lazy, unproductive worthless employees in their own ranks, make the workers a little more productive, accept more reasonable benefits, etc.
EDIT: THAT IS A BIG MAYBE.
never really thought of it that way. interesting perspective. just hate the abuse the union has done to the industry. but if you pinch them where it hurts in the pocketbook maybe they will help become a viable company. but as stated a BIG MAYBE but nice to look at a positive outcome once in a while
For a person who is all about ethics, morals and values…it seems odd you would support “low cost factories”…aka sweatshops. Not saying that GM is the most efficient company by any means but to let an american car be built overseas in a sweatshop isn’t very american.
I like the theory and hope it’s true, but I don’t know. That would require someone to look ahead long term. The CEOs don’t seem to do it - it’s all about next quarter’s numbers and getting what they can before the shit hits the fan or they move on to a different position. I doubt the union leaders will be any different and change. Everyone wants immediate rewards.
Please respond to this post in the next 30 seconds or I’ll move on to a thread with more to offer. 
what is american about building an overpriced car that isn’t even worth what they have into it when it goes on sale? the company is shot, bankrupt, they need to restructure and the costs of manufacturing are the issue. I don’t care, close the doors.
not all cars are built in sweatshops, so lets not be confused here. The market dictates salaries for jobs… an assembly line worker maybe shouldn’t make almost $40/hr and shouldn’t cost a company $80/hr to hire. This is the problem and there are only a few solutions. Ford seems to be doing ok being “american”, why is that?
Typical sonny response, avoiding the direct point I made. Yeah no shit GM needs to restructure…but to have cars build in sweatshops is not american…or ethical, or of good values, or of good morals…
typical Bics response… no fucking clue about the subject at hand.
how about this buddy, GM already has factories over seas … they already build sweatshop cars and they already have low emissions cars produced (one of the awesome benefits of GM turning into government motors - GO GREEN!), this wonderful deal at hand restricts any type of importing of these cars… it’s called protectionism and never ever works. how about part of this deal GM sells most of opel, but the new owers are not allowed to sell cars to america or china, again to protect the bullshit union. please do some homework before you assume things that aren’t the case.
less posts about this than i expected… where’s teh racism and lack of common sense or self control i’d come to love from this site? obama FTW
note: sonny has delivered what i expected from him
No shit GM builds cars overseas, it is no secret dip shit…been all over the news for a while. I do not claim to be an expert…al I was doing is calling you out for being an hypocrite. You went on and on in the car insurance thread about values, morals, etc and here you are promoting a company to build cars in a sweatshop. Now like the douchebag you are you trying to twist it around. Calm down chief…I know how important your internet status is to you…no need to twist shit…just admit you are a hypocrite douchebag.
Ford is still a family owned operation, sorta. The Ford family is still involved in the day to day operations of the company and they have an outlook to keep the company up. GM hires a CEO who could give a fucks less what happens after he retires or gets fired. I think that has something to do with it. Ford started selling off brands and cutting jobs slowly over the past few years and is now leaps and bounds above GM and Chrysler. GM and Chrysler and now government controlled pieces of shit while Ford is still a viable company.
what is considered a “sweatshop”?
I don’t see how all foreign cars are built in sweatshops? Most of the Honda’s in the US (at least recently) are built in Ohio and Canada.
this is on-topic chief… take your personal problems with me being > than you and stfu. stick to the topic at hand… to which you’ve yet to fully grasp. go read up and report back
again, you say this:
then say this:
if it’s known that GM builds overseas then they are unamerican already? wait i’m confused, oh that’s because what you are typing makes zero sense.
Classic smug response…again you being a douchebag entertains me. I never once said what GM does. All I did is state you were a hypocrite by acting like you had morals and what not and then you support sending plants overseas…that is it. I said it is un-American to do so, yes GM does…yes I did know this…I never once said GM isn’t un-American…so quit trying to twist shit…so go ahead and reply trying to put words in my mouth…unless you made an honest mistake and misread my posts…but you are the shit and you>me so I doubt that could ever happen :jerkit:
:owned: 