May '08 European Car Mag: Top 10 Sleepers

ohhh oops… argument still stands though

here are the vig’s specs:

http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/models/2000/ts93v.html

I think we can put this one to bed
:deadhorse

ha ha I’m with benny and kosta on this one

Since in stock form the Viggen is only slightly faster than a 9-3 SE/Base model but the Viggen has a full body kit, wouldn’t the 9-3SE/Base be a bigger “sleeper”? ;D

good point . . . in my mind a sleeper would be something that from appearance wouldnt be fast be actually is… the viggen was marketed as a sports car there for in saabs industry it would not be considered a sleeper and I don’t think it should be on the list

me four!!! :ninja

I don’t get why you guys think his car could possibly be a “sleeper” it says civic type s and ivtec stickers on the side…

http://cdn-www.rsportscars.com/images/audi/2004-audi-rs6-plus/rs6plus04_01.jpg
that looks like something your mom would drive to price chopper, but goes goes 0-60 in under 5 seconds, it doesnt have a body kit or anything fancy looking other than HID headlights

Now that, is a sleeper :nod

because no one outside of the honda tuning world would know what that signifies…if i saw his car not knowing him or it already my first thought would be ‘look at this fuckin retard, got ahold of some rsx badges and slapped em on his eg, what a noob ::)’

and then i’d proceed to get my ass handed to me.

THIS is a sleeper:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e3da15e9-fc26-408c-a714-ad318845ffb1.htm

195 mph:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/71f58233-dfd8-4770-b312-983c01849fac.htm

you couldnt PAY me enough to do 195mph in a fucking colt :rofl

Yeah, the i-vtec stickers could easily be excused by saying…" oh they were free so i threw them on", and the civic type-s…no one asks, they look and do this :haha

and at the JVG meet in November someone, i dont remember who, said he thought it just said “vtec DOHC”

no one can say my car isn’t a sleeper, it’s a 4 door w/ rims, a lip and HIDs :rofl

haha yeah :lol

+cheater’s hp

If it was cheating it wouldn’t be fucking sold widely and used when people race, if it’s cheating, it’s ‘forced induction’, then fucking turbos and superchargers are cheating.

people only call it cheating because you can do the same thing with a $1k nitrous setup that you can with a $6k turbo kit

turbo’s still way cooler imo, but both work pretty fuckin good :rofl

you dont have to keep refilling tubos, start the motor and theyre moving

turbo>n20 but its definitly not “cheating”

So? the price it costs to fill nitrous is less than a turbo, same effects of a turbo, and who cares if the nitrous isn’t always on? use it when needed.