How did we lose trillions of dollars to the global warming scare?
Oh come on. That article is nothing but spin, not news coverage. There is no new information in it, just quotes from POLITICIANS about a SCIENTIFIC issue. Same shit that will keep climate change from ever being studied objectively.
Now, some critics are questioning even the seemingly reliable data from the U.S. government.
“The GISS and NOAA reports suffer from the same reliability concerns as the CRU ground-based temperature reports,” Taylor says. “And, more importantly, are similarly staffed by outspoken global warming activists who are likely engaging in the same data rigging and data hiding as CRU.”
That’s news???
^ Truth
Investment in efficiency is not sunk or intrinsically “bad”
For the energy lobbies and brain dead sheep it is!
Here’s another mindfuck: The school that may have thrown away a bunch of data was only founded in 1963, so anybody who thinks that they have deprived the world of 150 years of data that only they have needs to buy themselves a ticket on the logic train.
Excuse me for not being overwhelmingly convinced about an issue studied all over the world because of one controversy at one muck-a-muck English University.
For the record, I’m skeptical of human’s activities actually affecting the climate. I just see this whole email hack thing as just more crap keeping real science from getting done and reported objectively.
Fuck the polar bears, I would just like to see progress away from a centuries-old unsustainable technology which forces us to rely on ass-backward corrupt governments in the most unsavory regions of the world. i.e. Canada
LOL Word.
Investments in efficiency certainly aren’t bad.
Forcing things like cap and trade, which is based entirely around greenhouse gas emissions, when there is mounting evidence that the scientific “proof” may not be nearly as solid as we’ve been told is bad.
We’ve seen this before, and quite recently, with corn ethanol. It was the magic bullet for a while, until food prices skyrocketed and the real science revealed we were putting almost as much energy in creating it as we got out.
You say you don’t want to rely on shitty sections of the world for resources. Agree. You know what this country has a ton of? Coal. You know what cap and trade makes it very expensive to make electricity from… you guessed it, coal.
Cap-and-Trade is a joke anyway. The carbon credit market can’t function like a “real” market when member nations set the price. In theory it’s a good idea, but no-one has the balls to make it work like it should.
It’s all a bunch of crap regardless of what games we play. We’ll keep burning fossil fuels until we start running out and they get so expensive (for real though, not just artificially inflated because we’ll just undo that) that renewable alternatives become financially viable. If climate change is real then I just hope that that happens before we cook ourselves.
Climate change IS real. But NOT or the reasons that they are spewing.
As it was stated many times before. When a volcano erupts, it sends out more ash, carbon, and pollutants into the atmosphere than the human race can collectively in 100 years. Its throws of the global climate for a short time. But ya know what? it recovers. The earth runs on a natural cycle. It is going to happen either way. Instead of trying to reverse the earth’s natural cycle, which is impossible, we should still try to limit our pollution, so that we don’t exacerbate the environmental damage that WE cause. I’m not against cleaning up after ourselves, and being more responsible and environmentally friendly. But not to the point where we have to blow everything out of proportion, go into a frenzy, and waste so much time and money on trying to stop the inevitable, when we could be putting forth efforts to make an actual difference.
I’ve been reading the emails and there is a lot of junk in there. You can read and search some of them here: http://di2.nu/foia/HARRY_READ_ME-0.html
The media is focusing on the bullet-point quotes from the scientists but one of the big things they’re missing is the fact that the computer program used by these scientists which is the basis for the IPCC and other global warming projections is a pile of shit… and some of the data that was input was “tweaked” to fit the model.
A good read from CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
Another interesting read: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategate-computer-codes-are-the-real-story/#comments (For the huge nerds here)
lol pajamasmedia… Did Joe the plumber write the article?
I just want my own windmill(s). Fuck the grid.
NPR has covered this. :eyebrow:
dude thats like the 3rd time in this thread that youve said the same exact thing, like you are expecting someone to jump out of their seat in amazment at how correct you are. We all get it, but most of what you are stating is still opinion. Volcanoes errupting also has a very small effect on actual climate change just like humans do. It is our planets tilted axis, rotation, and radioactive waves from the sun that reach the earths surface that causes the vast majority of our climate shifts, not a volcano shooting some dust and ash into the sky. Please, just stop, o my god.
Has Obama cancelled his trip yet? If not, what is he waiting for?
Edit: Oh this… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40
all this was known by many for a long time Global Warming was a Government Rouse, The Reason Why it has turned into a BIG thing right now is because of GOOD OLE HACKERS who stole a bunch of information emails that showed these scientists talking about Global Warming is not happening and that all this Carbon Dioxide Garble as just a way to control more shit.
LOL JUAT?
haha did you read any of the treaty? I enjoy 37 & 38.
Sounds like another way for one corrupt government to give other corrupt government funding!