Mustang Talk

Adam (94GT)… trust me when I say…whatever car frank drove didn’t do 0-60 mph IN UNDER 2 SECONDS… that would be one amazing task and the world would have seen video. I might be wrong… but keep in mind… Some of the worlds fastest production cars dont break the 3 sec mark.

F1 cars have a hard time doing that…

Frank drove the 427 TT ligeneflter, it was on street tires, so yes technically in the state that he drove it it was 3.2 sec capable. With SLICKS it can pull that time, i just dont see how its that hard to believe, on a drag strip with stupid traction a car with 850 or so hp, its very feasable. Take this into consideration, it reaches 155 in 8[color=black][size=10pt] seconds![/size][/color] Also keep in mind some of the fastest cars have traction issues, limiting them to achieve their best 0-60, put a set of slicks on some of these supercars and you will see that # drop considerably…

Okay, your persuasive… now show me.

Ill tell ya what, you buy me the 427 car, and ill show ya :lol deal?

Get a life, shit gets off topic sometimes(like K20 owns everything and your shit sucks because its not one :lol) No different than people talking about the nice ass ferarris posted, you just dont like mustangs so its not cool with you. Rant over…

fuckem, its not our fault you and me were the only ones battin back and forth for a bit… its not like we took over the thred or anything. net nazi lmfao

ok well fuck it seeing that we have our own thred now.
im posting the diffrent kinds of mustangs lol…
Saleen S-281
Saleen S-281SC
Saleen S-281E
Saleen S-281 Molly Pop
Saleen S-281E Ultimate Bad Boy
Saleen S-281 550GT
Saleen S-281SC RF
Saleen S-281 American Flag Edition
Saleen Parnelli Jones S-302
Saleen H-281
Saleen H-302
Saleen H-302SC
Saleen S-302E
Saleen SA-25 Sterling Edition
Saleen Gurney Signature Edition
Roush Sport
Roush Stage 1
Roush Stage 2
Roush Stage 3
Roush Blackjack
Roush 427R
Roush 428R
Roush Drag Pac
Roush Track Pac
Roush Roadster
Roush P-51A
Roush V6
Roush Speedster
Steeda Q335
Steeda Q335 Club Racer
Steeda Q350
Steeda Q400
Steeda Q445
Steeda Q450
Steeda Q500
Steeda Q525
Steeda Q650
Steeda QS6
Steeda GT500
Shelby CS-6
Shelby West Coast Customs Edition
Shelby GT
Shelby GT-H
Shelby GT Southern California Edition
Shelby GT Barrett-Jackson Edition
Shelby GT500 40th Anniversary
Shelby GT500 KR
Shelby GT500 Super Snake
Shelby GT500 Redline
Ford Racing FR500C
Ford Racing FR500GT
Ford Racing FR500S
Ford Warrior’s in Pink Edition
MPH Series 1
MPH Series 2
MPH Series 2 Drag Pac
California Special
Twister Special
Bullitt
Chip Foose Stallion
Cervini C-300
Cervini C-350
Cervini C-500
Team Shinoda Boss Level 1
Team Shinoda Boss Level 2
Team Shinoda Boss Level 2 S
Team Shinoda Boss Level 2 FR
Team Shinoda Boss Level 2 T
Team Shinoda Boss Level 3
Team Shinoda Boss Stroker Edition
Team Shinoda Boss Legacy
Team Shinoda Boss 429
Retrobuilt RSC-GT
Retrobuilt RSC-500
Terlingua Racing Team V6
Griggs Racing GR40TT
Griggs Racing GR40RT
Griggs Racing GR40ST
Sherrod Conversions 500 S
Sherrod Conversions 300 S
Ronaele 350R
Ronaele 450R
Ronaele 550R
Ronaele 700R Monoceros
Ronaele 300EV
Ronaele 600EV
Heritage Customs A.J. Foyt Coyote Edition
Heritage Customs A.J. Foyt 50th Anniversary Limited Edition
Cragar Special Edition
Temple Performance Cars Legend X
Temple Performance Cars Series 1
Temple Performance Cars Series 2
Dream Car Factory 500GT
Bash Performance GT-SR Stage 1
Bash Performance GT-SR Stage 2
Bash Performance GT-SR Stage 3
Bash Performance MS-R Stage 1
Bash Performance MS-R Stage 2
Bash Performance MS-R Stage 3
Vortech V-Power
Brooks Performance Stealth-R
MRT Bullitt Reload
NorthAmerican Tuning P-51
BDX Mustang GT
Southern Comfort Edition

Yeah, as soon as something non import comes up everyone gets flustered, and i believe we were talking about dream cars, just no one else was postin. This site cracks me up sometimes

:crackup thats great, havin our own shit aint too bad

California Special :wow i dont like the 64.5-68ish mustangs much but, i like the california specials alot

history of the mustang,

On April 13, 1964, the first Ford Mustang was seen racing in the American Grand Prix races. The people instantly fell in love with this sporty and aggressive new car, and they all wanted one. Officially debuting in the World Exhibition of New York, the Ford Mustang was received by open arms and welcoming checks of future owners.

This all-new car was designed by Ford to compete with the sport cars of Chevrolet and Dodge/ Chrysler/ Plymouth in the market for affordable sports cars ranging in power. The first Ford Mustang had three engine choices ranging from a 105hp I6, to a 164hp V8, to a 271hp monster V8. Ford had the options of coupe and convertible body styles for the first Mustang, and the classic retro wheel covers and three vertical taillights were standard styling. In 1964, $2,400 could buy you a standard Mustang, and for twice the money, you could have the top of the line in interior and exterior options on the big V8! The new Mustang was so popular 22,000 sold on the first day, over 100,000 were sold by the first four months, nearly 420,000 were sold by the end of the first year, and the 1,000,000th Mustang rolled out of Dearborn, MI in 1966!

1965 was a huge step for the Ford Mustang. In 1965, Ford introduced the first Fastback Mustang model, which included a more aggressively slanted rear window line. In April, 1965, Ford introduced the GT Mustang, which stands for grand touring. An upgraded I6 and a new carbureted V8 replaced the three engine choices from 1964, but the GT350 came out with an underrated 306hp! With over 500,000 units selling in 1965, the Ford Mustang has written its name on Ford’s popularity list.

1966 was a year of cosmetic detailing for the Mustang. New choices of interior colors and materials were options, and the drive trains stayed the same. The Mustang was now a permanent seat on the Ford team.

In 1967, Ford changed the exterior styling to that of the popular “Eleanor Mustang.“ With elongated body lines, a more aggressively larger grill and air scoops, and the sleek fastback styling, the 1967 Ford Mustang’s looks finally lived up to its potential in power. With the help of Carroll Shelby, Ford was able to make a powerfully performing and styling Mustang at an affordable price to the everyday average person.

In 1968, Ford introduced the California Special Mustang, whit a more race friendly interior including a larger and more symmetrical gauge cluster. 1968 was the last year of the smaller mustangs in the classic era, because in 1969, the Mustang gained weight and power!

The 1969 Ford Mustang, coming in at 4 inches longer than the previous model, also had some cosmetic changes in the grill area and lighting. Aside from cosmetics, the 1969 Ford Mustang received a much appreciated boost in performance. The Mustang Grande, Mach 1, Boss 302, and Boss 429 all debuted this year. The Grande was a luxury oriented Mustang to attract the more upscale drivers, however, the Mach 1 was track and race inspired with a monster Windsor engine, flat black hood, and classic stripes. The Boss 302 was Ford’s ticket into Trans-Am racing with the Mustang. Needing to sell 1,000 units in production before competing, Ford had no problem giving these beasts to the public. The Boss 429 was the beast Ford was racing in NASCAR.

Growing another three inches for 1971-1973, Ford was planning on dropping big block v8s into the Mustang. With the fuel crisis unloading on the nation, however, these plans changed. Power dropped in this year with smog and emissions testing, and Ford used luxury to keep attracting young buyers. With more heavy emissions testing and smog control, the big V8 was dropped in 1972, and power again went down. Ford also began using net hp ratings in 1972 to make insurance lower for the buyer. 1973 called for better government crash results, and a heavier bumper was installed onto the Ford Mustang, making this baby weigh in at 3800 lbs.

Engine Options for Classic Mustangs by Model Year

1964½
-171ci i6 (2.8L)- 105hp, 156lb./ft. tq.
-260ci v8 (4.2L)- 164hp 2-barrel carburetor
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 210hp 4-barrel carburetor
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 271hp 4-barrel carburetor

1965-1966
-200ci i6 (3.3L)- 120hp, 190lb//ft. tq.
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 200hp 2-barrel carburetor
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 225hp 4-barrel carburetor (Mustang GT)
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 271hp 4-barrel carburetor
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- GT 350 – 306hp 4-speed v8

1967
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 200hp 2-barrel carburetor
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 225hp 4-barrel carburetor (Mustang GT)
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 271hp 4-barrel carburetor
-390ci v8 (6.4L)- 320hp 4-barrel carburetor

1968
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 195hp 4-barrel carburetor
-302ci v8 - 210hp 2-barrel carburetor
-302ci v8 - 230hp 4-barrel carburetor
-390ci v8 (6.4L)- 325hp 4-barrel carburetor
-428ci “CobraJet v8” (7.0L)- 335hp (underrated)
-427ci v8 (7.0L)- 390hp 4-barrel carburetor

1969-1970
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 225hp 4-barrel carburetor (Mustang GT)
-302ci v8 - 220hp 4-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- 250hp 2-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- “351 Cleveland”- 290hp 4-barrel carburetor
-Boss 302- v8- (4.9L)- 290hp
-390ci v8 - 320hp 4-barrel carburetor
-428ci “CobraJet v8” (7.0L)- 335hp (underrated)
-Boss 429- v8- 375hp (add about 75-100 more w/ 4bbl carb and exhaust), 450lb./ft. tq.

1971
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 225hp 4-barrel carburetor
-302ci v8 - 210hp 4-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- 240hp 2-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- 285hp 4-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- 330hp 4-barrel carburetor
-429 super CobraJet v8- 370hp

1972-1973
-289ci v8 (4.7L)- 225hp 4-barrel carburetor
-302ci v8 - 210hp 4-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- 240hp 2-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- 285hp 4-barrel carburetor
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- 330hp 4-barrel carburetor
-429 super CobraJet v8- 370hp

Mustang II History

1974 was a sad year for Ford Mustang enthusiasts. With no v8 option and no convertible option, Ford Mustang sales went down, and the nation was being choked in the ever-strong grips of the oil crisis. The less powerful four-cylinder and V6 models were the engine options, and the mustang powerhouse took a backseat for a few years.

A little more power is offered in 1975 with the reinstatement of the V8. The same Mustang would be produced for three years in a row with virtually no changes whatsoever to cut down on production costs to make the consumer more able to buy the once sporty Mustang. Though underpowered, this V8 allowed Ford to maintain a healthy relationship with its customers, and hope was just around the corner.

Engine Options for Mustang II’s by Model Year

1974
-2.3L i4
-2.8L v6- 105hp
(No v8 option!)

1975-1978
-2.3L i4
-2.8L v6- 105hp
-302ci v8- (4.9L)- 140hp; 122hp in CA 2-barrell carburetor

Fox Body Mustang History

In 1979, the Fox body Ford Mustang is born! The prayers of the enthusiast were answered with MacPherson Struts, a lighter weight Mustang than the Mustang II, and it had more power! Ford introduced the turbocharged I4 to make up for the lack of power in the past five years, and the 302 was also a welcomed addition to the Mustang powerhouse. With high fuel prices though, in 1981, Ford again lowered the power of the v8 to meet emissions standards.

For the first time since 1969, Ford brings back the Mustang GT in the form of a 5.0L V8 4-speed in 1982. 1983 called for a more powerful turbocharged I4, making 145hp. The Borg-Warner T-5 (five speed) transmission is now brought into the Mustang, and tire size increased from 185/75/14 on the ‘82 to 205/70/14 in 1983. 1984 called for a quad-shock rear suspension to replace the traction bars, and variable rate springs and gas shocks are introduced to the Ford Mustang. This will be the last year for the turbocharged four cylinder GT. The SVO turbocharged four cylinder Mustang is introduced, and it made 175hp, had four-wheel disc brakes, a better suspension, and rode on 16″ wheels. 1985 would be the last year for the carbureted Mustangs. The SVO gets 205hp, and the 5-speeds get a 2.73:1 rear gear. In 1986, the 7.5″ rear end was replaced with the sturdier 8.8″ one, fuel injection was introduced, and compression went up from 8.4:1 to 9.2:1. Horsepower went down, but torque increased.

In 1987, the GT Mustang’s horsepower is increased by 25hp, compression was set at 9.0:1, and larger front brakes matched 15×7 inch wheels. This year, the car is 180 inches longer, shorter than even the First Ford Mustang! Mass Air metering is introduced in 1988, allowing the computer to adapt to modifications more easily. 1991 called for larger wheels measuring 16×7 inches. Generally, Mustang Fans favor the 1989-1992 Ford Mustangs for performance use because the 5.0L V8 came with forged pistons, MAF (mass air flow meters), EFI (electronic fuel injection), and a stronger main block. The last of the Fox body Mustangs is in 1993. The GT was rated at 205hp, and the Cobra was underrated at 235hp. A Cobra R model was introduced without A/C, a stereo, and backseat along with stiffer suspension.

Engine Options for the Fox Body Mustangs by Model Year

1979-1981
-2.3L i4
-2.3L i4- turbocharged
-2.8L v6
-302- v8- (4.9L) 140hp 2-barrel carburetor
1980-1981
-4.2L (de-bored) v8 - 120hp

1982-1986
-2.3L i4- 145hp turbocharged
-2.3L i4- 175hp turbocharged
-3.8L v6
-4.2L (de-bored) v8 - 120hp
-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 157hp 2-barrel carburetor
-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 165hp EFI
-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 175hp 4-barrel carburetor
-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 200hp EFI
-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 210hp 4-barrel carburetor
(Gradually increases in hp and tq. until peaking in 1987 with 225hp)

1987-1993
-2.3L i4
-3.8L v6
-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 225hp EFI to 205hp EFI MAF

-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 235hp EFI MAF

SN-95 Mustang History

1994 called for a stiffer, yet heavier Fox 4 platform and increased HP numbers. the V8 received 215hp, and the Cobra received 240hp. in 1995, Ford introduced arguably the best Mustang yet: the 1995 Cobra R. With a deleted A/C, stereo, and rear seat this lightweight powerhouse was based on the 351 Windsor platform shared by the likes of Steve Saleen in his s351 model until the year 2000.

In 1996, Ford introduced the SOHC 4.6L modular V8 engine, and engine that would stand the test of time for the next few years. With the GT rated at 215hp, and the DOHC Cobra at 305, this new modular block proved versatile, strong, and cost-effective for Ford.

In 1998, a less restrictive exhaust opens up 10hp for the GT. The upper strut tower brace is removed for cost reasons, and the interior clock in the dash is removed as well. The V6 gained 5hp, and this would be the last year of the sn95 body style.

Engine Options for the SN-95 Mustangs by Model Year

1994-1995
-232ci v6 (3.8L)- 145hp, 215lb./ft. tq.
-302ci v8 (4.9L- “5.0”)- 215hp, 288lb./ft. tq.
-351ci v8 (5.8L)- Cobra R

1996-1997
-232ci v6 (3.8L)- 150hp, 215lb./ft. tq.
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 215hp, 290lb./ft. tq.
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 305hp, DOHC Cobra

1998
-232ci v6 (3.8L)- 150hp, 215lb./ft. tq.
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 225hp, 286lb./ft. tq.

New Edge Mustang History

In 1999, the GT received a PI intake, better cams, and larger valves. The V6 also receives intake work, utilizing a split-port design and boosting HP to 190hp. The most noticeable styling changes of this “new edge” Mustang are the larger rear end, more aggressive styling, and scooped hoods. The interiors maintained virtually untouched by Ford during the year change. The 2000 Cobra R was given a 6-speed manual transmission, all the weight reductions, Eibach and Bilstein suspension, Borla exhaust, and many other race-inspired modifications, yet it maintained its street legality!

A different intake design in 2001 increased the V6 Mustang’s hp by 3hp, and the V8 remained untouched. A Bullitt edition Ford Mustang, debuting wingless and with billet accessories, a better intake, and a different style boosted the hp of the 4.6L. A supercharged Cobra rates in at 390hp, IRS, and other modifications in 2003 and 2004. The limited edition Bullit and Mach 1 offer hints and foreshadowing into the 2005 GT Mustang’s powerline.

Engine Options for the New Age Mustangs by Model Year

1999-2000
-232ci v6 (3.8L)- 190hp, 220lb./ft. tq.
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 260hp, 302lb./ft. tq. SOHC
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 320hp, 335lb./ft. tq. DOHC
-329.4ci v8 (5.4L)- 385hp, 385lb./ft. tq. Cobra R

2001-2004 (excluding 3.9L v6 used for latter ½ of ‘04)
-232ci v6 (3.8L)- 193hp, 225lb./ft. tq.
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 260hp, 302lb./ft. tq.
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 265hp, 315lb./ft. tq. Bullit
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 305hp, 320lb./ft. tq. Mach 1
-281ci v8 (4.6L)- 390hp, 390lb./ft. tq. Cobra

In 2005, Ford came out with the all-new S-197 Ford Mustang. This Mustang had an all new platform, chassis, body, interior, exterior, and improved drivetrain. The V6 model was given a 4.0L V6 making 17 more hp, and the GT was given the powertrain based off of the 03-04 Mach 1, coming in at 300hp, 320lb./ft. tq.
For late 2006 / early 2007, Carroll Shelby again teams up with Ford to bring the Mustang enthusiast a new model Mustang. Shelby offers a new CS 6 Mustang, a 250bhp v6 model courtesy of a Paxton supercharger.

The speculated and long awaited for 2007 Shelby Cobra is set to debut in late 2006 under the work of Carroll Shelby and Ford Special Vehicles Team (SVT). With the most powerful Ford Mustang ever to be produced in the works of creation, this will surely be a beast of beasts in the car world, could it even compete with the new C6 Corvette?

Engine Options for the S-197 Mustangs by Model Year

2005 - 2006
-4.0L v6- 210hp, 240lb./ft. tq.
-4.6L v8- 300hp, 320lb./ft. tq.

-4.0L v6- 350hp, Shelby CS 6
2007 - ??
-4.0L v6- 210hp, 240lb./ft. tq.
-4.6L v8- 300hp, 320lb./ft. tq.
-5.4L v8- 450-500hp, 450lb./ft. tq., Shelby GT500 Cobra

:nod They look pretty sick

the origonal cs right? not the new ones right? i like the old ones, the new ones are just badged gts… with an a slightly more agressive tune then the standerd gt model. this years bullit only has like 30 more horse then the standerd gt…for 35 grand thats pretty sad lol, heres a picture of an old cs

heres a mach1
i love this car :bowdown

heres an image i did … i took two images made one…

wow, nice job! :giggedy

thanks… i like to tinker somtimes lol ;D

ya nd if that was a real paint job there… WOW :smiley:

:nod that would be sick, bring it to one of the low rider airbrushing guys…