I agree with Timmay - no window shopper who only cares about the numbers would every pick the Gt3 and justify buying the premium.
The Gt3 offers much more than numbers, it offers heritage, prestige, exclusiveness, function and form, and the feel of the being a drivers car more so than the GT-R which uses technology as a steroid shot to compete with the real through-breads (sp?).
def agree with that, you have a certain status when buying a gt3 which other cars cannot offer
lmao, assembled by just 14 highly trained ninjas… :mwahaha :crackup
:lol at the ninja’s, whats it governed to, and thats super gay that its limited
Its not limited to 85mph or anything gay like that, you just can’t go balls out outside the USA unless the Sat-Nav knows your on a track. The rumors I’ve heard say that cars made for our market won’t have this limitation, frankly that scares me. These cars are affordable enough that people who have no business driving them will be able to get behind the wheel. Much like all those wrecked Z06’s people post pictures of, a lack of respect for a piece of machinery like this will bite its victim hard.
still if im paying 100k for a car and im on a completely deserted highway and i feel the need to see what it can do i want to be able to, but i do see the logic that there are going to be alot of people with these cant cant drive them
What limiters are exactly set when you are not at a track?
Japanese GT-Rs are speed-limited for the street: As has been widely reported, unless it’s driven on a preapproved racetrack, a stock Japanese-spec GT-R is limited to 180 kph (111.8 mph) with the factory settings. GPS sensors in the navigation system track vehicle position and communicate with the ECU. Try to exceed 180 kph, and a warning light will appear on the instrument panel. Only shutting the car off and restarting it will get the light to disappear.
But can be run all-out at the track: Running a GT-R at the track requires scrolling through menus in the on-board computer and selecting the racetrack option that bypasses the speed limiter. Only then can the car be run to its full potential.
Though it’ll cost you: Once the track day is over, owners who have run their GT-Rs over the speed limit are required to take them to a preapproved Nissan High Performance Center for a safety check. Failure to perform this $1000 service will void the factory warranty.
As for the wheel and tire rumor: That the factory wheels cannot be removed without sending an error code to the ECU, MINE’S has proven this myth wrong. It’s been able to take off wheels, rotate them, and even change to higher-performance, non-run-flat tires. It did have to take the wheels to the Nissan dealership to get the job done at great expense; MINE’S ended up paying about $230 per wheel in labor.
Putting aftermarket rims on a GT-R is different story: Because of a sensor located near the valve stem in each wheel, it isn’t possible for the car to run on aftermarket rims without throwing an error code. All blinged-out GT-Rs at Auto Salon got there on stockers and only then were the shoes changed.
Some mild mods are possible: MINE’S has modified the exhaust system and a replacement air-filter element, both of which have reportedly made substantial extra power. It’s also upgraded the brake rotors and switched to GT-R’s suspension system to a coil-over system with no ECU problems.
But not all: MINE’S has tried replacing the factory air box and intake system with a high-flow cone-style system, but found its car will not run right. Raising the boost pressure on the twin turbos, a common way to increase power, also triggered errors in the extremely sensitive ECU.
There is hope for the hot-rodders: MINE’S is rumored to be the first tuner to crack the GT-R ECU. And though Niikura-san admits his ECU modification is a work in progress, he was able to demonstrate the following during our recent visit. MINE’S gave us a performance demonstration with two GT-Rs, one stock, the other modified by MINE’S. The modified GT-R was able to run at 192.6 mph (310 kph) while the factory spec GT-R was unable to go past 111.8 mph. Niikura-san told us he’s in the last stages of overcoming the boost and speed limit as well as making it possible to make adjustments to VTC (variable cam timing system), air/fuel ratio and throttle position. Since our visit, reports have surfaced that MINE’S has just released a version of its VX-ROM product designed to override the ECU’s limiter function.
More good news: For all the GT-R’s stunning performance, it’s hard to understand why any enthusiast in Japan would purchase a GT-R given all the restrictions and headaches. We seem to be in the clear, though; our sources at Nissan USA have told us no such GPS-based speed limiters will be placed on U.S.-spec GT-Rs, though it’s unclear where we stand with the rest of the limitations.
for the japanese model really got fucked 118 mph is gay :wtf, and all those expensive ass checks, and not being able to modify it without great expense, gtr went from sick to suck imho
They had to limit them in Japan so cops could catch them :lol
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