I don’t get how before the election, right-wingers were boasting “Obama is not a messiah, he’s nothing special”. But only after a month of being elected he was being drilled by the same critics as to why things aren’t fixed yet and now he’s suddenly responsible for the last 8 years of the Bush administrations fuck ups. :picard:
Elaborate. How does that have anything to do with my statement?
He is NOT responsible for the Bush administration fuck up. Just as Bush wasnt responsible for the Clinton administration fuck ups (though try telling that to any dem and you will be looked at like a retard). Obama IS however responsible for his own fuck ups, which go greatly ignored by the media and written off as “oh wells”.
What are some “fuck ups” you think the Obama administration is responsible for? Besides your opposition to his health care plan.
yeah there’s a difference between “opposition” and “fuck up”.
There’s no debating that the bush administration fucked up the economy. If you don’t see that then you’re just as bad as these “far left” people you hate so much.
There is plenty of debating whether something such as the health care issue is a fuck up or not, therefore you can have your “opposition”, but it’s far too early to tell what’s going to happen, regardless of how smart you think you are.
I think the people who are anti-obama that say things like “your black jesus failed you!” are just as bad as the pro-obama people that thought he could fix it just by sitting his magical ass in the presidential chair. Stop being so ridiculously extreme and understand that the country is currently fucked up, whether you like it or not, and it’s going to take time to fix it. Just because it’s not magically fixed in the first year of a new leader’s term doesn’t mean it’s the Apocalypse. OMGZZZ 2012!!! AAHH!!!
But I voted for obama, and i’m currently happy that a smaller percentage of the world hates us now as opposed to when our previous leader was deemed Satan.
I didn’t vote for him, but when he was elected I hoped that he fixed all he said he would fix.
What I hate, anytime something isn’t going his way, it becomes “well its because of bush”.
Ok that’s nice, if that’s the case, you were drummed up as the change we needed to fix that…so fix it…don’t cry “bush fucked it up”, we said that, you said you’d fix it, fix it!
The next line would be “well it doesn’t happen over night” or “Rome wasn’t built in a day” and the circle repeats.
His foreign policy might be more friendly, but he hasn’t made a single decision effecting our troops that wasn’t politically driven, instead of doing what needs to be done, he’s letting the blowing wind of approval try to dictate it, with it in the shitter right now you’d think he would ignore it. At least that’s what my brother feels. I don’t know enough about what needs to be done with the war to comment.
i would really like to hear jeg’s response to this
its not really fuck ups, its a lack of anything, well beside moving Guantanamo bay prisoners state side.
The prison is slowly being emptied but that brings a new meaning to friends close and enemies closer.
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I think people expected to much too soon. A lot of people thought we’d be riding the high life economically by now. I didn’t vote, but I supported Obama, as I felt he was the lesser of two evils and had a lesser chance of dieing. Obama is a lot more personable than any president I’ve seen in my life, and more literate than that last. I also agree that people think Obama controls everything. IF the economy sucks it’s Obama’s fault, If people can’t find jobs, it’s Obama’s fault. If a guy straps on an explosive diaper and tries to blow up a plane, it’s Obama’s fault. We will see after 4 years. You don’t end the football game after 1 quarter.
I hate the term “lesser of two evils” its so cliche and over used.
I have heard this argument many times before and it is safe enough to be on the norm but poignant enough to look like you care about politics.
not an attack on you, I am just stating my thoughts.
Well as cliche as it might be, it seems true. Each election season we choose between a liar or a better liar. Again, you can’t please everyone. As our generation of 20 and 30 year olds get older I think you’ll see a decline in religion in politics and gay marriage legalized. I think the aforementioned generation is a little more tolerant than the last.
I’m not avid with politics, in fact I know very little. I hate watching politics on TV because they are biased (obviously). I don’t think parties should have to stick to one way because it’s traditional or to appease voters. Like stem cell research, gay marriage, etc. While you may not have voted for Obama or even like the man, I feel as an American we should support our president. As we do our soldiers abroad. Not everyone will agree with the war but to be ungrateful of those willing to sacrifice their life is idiotic. We may not like the president, but to not want America to succeed is pretty lame.
i didnt vote, because i’m Canadian, but i would have voted for him and i wouldnt be upset because what the hell do you expect? wholesale change after a year?
considering how large and retarded government is (not just a US gov) it would take 3 dozen Obama’s at least 2 terms to turn things around completely.
There you have it; foreign opinion. 
I agree that even though I did not vote for him I should support our president but I dont think anyone on this forum (aside from maybe blue eyed devil or whatever his name is) wants this country to fail.
In all honesty, pretty much anything I say, regardless of its context, is going to be fallowed by “wow JEG that was so stupid” blah blah. So there is no point in stating my opinion on the matter. If you want it. Look it up in numerous other threads. All I said was Obama is responsible for his own fuck ups just as everyone is responsible for theirs. Playing the blame game gets us nowhere and does not salve the problems presented before us at the current time, but such is the nature of politics.
I think he’s trying to do a decent job, but that it’s too early to tell. Some of his decisions may suck for the short term, but will hopefully make a difference in the near future.
What are his documented fuck ups? Has he even been in office long enough to fuck up, let alone fix anything? Are you saying that all this country’s problems were born the moment he was elected and that it had nothing to do with the previous 8 years of amazing leadership?
Playing the blame game gets us nowhere yet that’s exactly what you’re doing. You didn’t vote for Obama, so everything must be his fault. Stop being so bitter.
Just pretend for a second that this has nothing to do with politics or a leader. Let’s change the theme to cars. Pretend that you just found a car for sale and it’s the car you’ve always wanted. The only problem is that the car is listed as a “fixer-upper”. You don’t care even though you know it’s going to take a ton of work to restore it to your liking. So you buy the car, bring it home, and jump right in to working on it. As you work on the car you start to see that there’s a lot more wrong with it than you thought. Rust, broken parts, interior is stinky, etc. You know it’s going to be a ton of work, and all your friends tell you it’s going to be a waste of time to work on, you’re going to lose money blah blah, but you don’t care. It’s your car and you’re going to finish it.
Now, would you say that all the problems with the car are your fault? Or would you say that the problems with the car were inherited by you when you decided to take ownership of the car? I mean, you didn’t break the car, you just bought it with the intentions of fixing it. So even though the previous owner beat the shit out of the car, is it still your fault that it’s broken?
Only a miracle can reverse 8 years of mayhem within a year, fools.
LOL, I knew I would get a rambling incoherent response instead of an answer from you.