but you forget one thing. joe the plumber is not self-employed and does not have his own business. This is not a small business. Joe is a tool with a stupid question. He barely has $1300 to cover his back taxes, and now suddenly he is going to purchase a business. As if.
He gets W-2s. So he has to EARN more than 250K (supposedly, I don’t know the specifics of the Obama plan…but they keep saying “make more than”) to get bumped to the higher tax bracket.
^ No I didn’t, I don’t give a rat’s ass about that guy, we are talking about taxes regardless of his life.
well then its agreed…McCain is being a retard when he brought it up… the $250k thing… since like 2% of the US population earned over $250k individually.
and Obama did a horrible job of clarifying it.
^I think it is fair to say they are both retards when it comes to this stuff.
After that debate it seemed like neither of them really took the tax thing head-on because neither of them know enough.
The shit they said was a waste of time without specifics that would ring home with the middle class.
I was sitting there like this :picard: when they both spoke.
The first thing Obama should have said was, “It’s not sales, it’s income/profit!”
If he had a clue that would have been the first words out of his mouth.
Now today he is joking like, “Ummm, yeah, MCain thinks a plumber makes $250,000.”
Obviously someone filled him in after the debate.
It just shows you how out of touch Senators are in their ivory tower.
^
Agreed. There is a lot of stupid to go around.
And here is another news flash…As Joe the plumber earns less than 200k, USA Today says he would have actually received a tax credit under the Obama plan, and nothing under McCain.
Only Joe McStupid still told Couric he was still leaning towards McCain because of his “stance on taxes”.
The thing I am still not entirely clear on is if the 250k is an individual tax floor for the new tax bracket or per family.
I would think it depends on how you file.
no, meaning 250k per individual, or 250k per couple (then 125 per person)
Colon Powel just endorsed Obama. Most people saw this coming so I doubt it will do much for Obama in the polls.
^I saw him interviewed, he said Palin didn’t have enough experience.
I got a good laugh out of that one.
Pretty ballsy move to support Obama at this point.:rolljerk:
Why didn’t he just wait until Obama won?
So you think Palin is ready to be President? Yes or No, don’t just respond with the typical, “Obama is ready responce?”
And I thought Powel was dead-on on why people should vote for Obama.
Watching Powel made me wish we could have nominated him.
I was really hoping McCain could have talked him into the VP spot.
That would have been the smartest move he could make, I doubt that Powel wasn’t considered or even asked.
He is setting powel up to be one of his top advisers it was all over the news this morning
I believe it’s individual
I also heard the FBI has already started doing backround checks, etc as part of the vetting process for possible cabinets members, etc.
I am not sure how that works, I’m sure they just wouldn’t check people at random.:snky:
if Powell were the republican running mate McCain would win hands down.
I actually still think he will win, even though i hope he doesnt, simply because i have no faith that the electoral process is independent.
anyone have a link to Powell’s endoresment video?
Rush was just playing Powells speech to the UN(about WMDs in Iraq) and editing in Obamas praise for him.
It was hilarious.
Speaking of The Middle East, how much of Obamas millions came from The Middle East?
I am guessing several million.
Lately I’d dismiss this as more nonsensical rantings of a person gone insane in the last 6 months, but this is an interesting article.
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/19/141979.html
Yes, I know it’s from a far right “news” site, but I’d like to see the response by the Obama campaign.
OMG! He’s a terrorist!
Do you always pick the low hanging fruit?
I bet you support Mesi, always fighting boxcar bums instead of real opponents. 