Johawk, very good post and you are right on every point including the providing the site and putting on the events and our (mostly mine) expense.
The theory of charging members, although valid, is unrealistic. You may remember what happened when we tried to organize the track rental day and only one person actually paid out of 20 some who promised to do so.
We have a few hundred of active members and by the rule of 10, we’ll be lucky if 25 or so sign up and at that point it will create drama or special treatment perception for paid members and the stigma of us being a paid site. National boards with thousands of members can get away with it, we can’t so that leaves sponsors and advertisers.
I’m fully aware of the financial situation and the fact that the site will most likely never bring even, it would be a blessing if I could even break even, but I’m fine with that.
What gets me is when I try to make this place enjoyable and welcome to all by eliminating discriminatory talks and threatening language and I get negative feedback from it. Why? You’re only biting the hand that feeds you by fighting basic rules that are only there to make sure that we are welcoming to new members.
I can dream… It was a shame that track event really tanked cause it would have been nothing short of awesome! We will come up with something in the future… Like you said “Sponsors”
More porn either cp or NWS stuff.
Get vlads Crx moving under its own power.
Get the second issue of the paper out.
Have steves (91 240) sister to make me a pie.
More meets… 09 SUCKED. 08 was the year of everything good
Another shift GPNY trip. last one was great altho we were divided up into two teams…
Less drama… o wait thats what makes shift…shift.
And less hand stands from singh :lol
And this Habib shit is getting annoying. i dont see the fasination in the word. The only thing that i can relate to is I have a friend mike habib. (dont believe me? search on facebook.)
Also a embedded paypal button to donate to the site. i would… (vlad take it off the rent :rofl) no but seriously. it would help out alot. whether $1 or 10…
at times i feel like I’m going to throw in the flag and just leave the forum completely due to how stupid things can get here… and i’m talking about how stupid things can get with the moderators and how they can get way too serious.
the offtopic and do whatever you want-ness is what makes shift…shift… so u start taking that away and going nuts, than you push alot of people away including me
ha ya ! sounds funny but that would help out big time, we wouldnt get 50 people to donate like that on the regular… but if we did… lets just say we would have 50 dollars left over per month to put on events we plan… so vlad wouldnt have to take that much money from his pocket for food and shit when/if we do a chill n grill…
:ninja
yeah, we’ll do that, vlads got paypal that works… good idea…
Why is it that when members successfully get three locks in a thread, a mod won’t lock it? Sounds like some mods aren’t following the rules… should they be banned?
And most of the time it seems to be a popularity case. There’s no reason for it to be locked, but one person votes on it, their buddies then vote lock as well and there the thread goes. I find it unfair to some, as most vote just in spite of the OP.
