Sovereign Citizens: A Clear and Present Danger why?

[Vovchandr]

@Omega

Vov, you’re taking a group of people and classifying them by a couple of nutjobs that were part. Some of these groups take it too far.

If I told you that I was a full blown member of the Jihad/Al Qaeda but I wasn’t taking it too far, that makes it fine? Group is judged by it’s members, just about always. If it doesn’t want to be judged by extreme members it shouldn’t have them or encourage them.

@Omega

There are manuals handed to police stating and showing ways to spot “Domestic Terrorists”. I’ve seen them in the local Sheriff’s and State Trooper’s offices. These manuals include things like flags with only stars from the original 13 colonies, upside down American Flags (Nation in Distress), people who state their rights, etc.

Stereotyping works.

@Omega

I wanted to steal one, but this was years ago while working in those places. It basically states anyone who goes against the grain of the current populace is a “Domestic Terrorist”. I used to laugh at my woman’s parents, Alex Jones, and people like pitman. But there is no denying this country is headed in the wrong direction. And things just seem to keep happening that allows the noose to tighten on our freedoms.

It’s called leads. If I wanted to find a likely extremist out on this forum guess who would be the most likely suspect? The one guy who hates the government, is in fear of it, things are going to hell etc. If Pitman decided to bomb a place and investigation lead back to Shift518 and his posts here, people would back on it and go “Huh, we should have seen this coming”…

@Omega

If you want to get really into it before sounding paranoid, a lot of this in sparse amounts, coupled with the flow of information is simply conditioning.

@Omega

I tend to argue that any populace, business, nation, etc, that gets large, gets corrupt and kills themselves and or their ideals off on their own out of pure nature. It’s a vicious cycle.

We are quite corrupt but hardly killing ourselves. People in power like to stay in power and with the financial disparity that’s taking place, they are not doing that bad.

@Omega

I hate how anytime someone questions what is in front of them, shown to them, etc, gets labeled as “crazy/paranoid”. Just release what you “know”, and think on your own.

There is no need to question what’s going on, just start by seeing things for what they are as it’s already right in front of your face. (See below) It’s nearly impossible to have a major corrupt secret overtaking plan going on. People question, people talk, people would have to be shut up and disappear etc. Conspiracies are silly because they fail to realize that this stuff isn’t secret. There is no reason for it to be. The stuff that actually goes on and is secret between a small staff of people doesn’t get read about on major blogs and random news articles. You don’t hear about it period.

@Omega

I’m not as bad as some people, but I am in a spot in my thought process that there is no fixing this nation. I personally think the system needs to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt. Be it by bullet or ballot.

I could go on like this forever, but I think I went too far already.

Even as “broken” as it is, it’s still the best system out there. Many are just too spoiled to see it.

@Omega

I will say what I can see from pitman, is he doesn’t believe the mainstream media and questions them, but doesn’t question the non-mainstream stuff and takes it for what it is. They can both be disinformation. The only thing you can do is think for yourself.

Exactly.

Here is what it all boils down to and I can’t stress this enough.

The whole “Government is trying to rule us/take us over yarr!!!” theory is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Why? Why the hell would they want to do it?

Think about it. Where does 90% of your money go? Into taxes and big business. You already exist in a structure where you dedicate most of your life to be in dept and give most of your money to government and business. Government by definition already got your votes and is taking your money. There is no OTHER AGENDA. They are done. They got exactly what they wanted. Your money and your vote, now they don’t care.