Space Shuttle :picard:

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA discovered a worrisome gouge on Endeavour’s belly soon after the shuttle docked with the international space station Friday, possibly caused by ice that broke off the fuel tank a minute after liftoff.

The gouge — about 3 inches square — was spotted in zoom-in photography taken by the space station crew shortly before Endeavour delivered teacher-astronaut Barbara Morgan and her six crewmates to the orbiting outpost.
“What does this mean? I don’t know at this point,” said John Shannon, chairman of the mission management team. If the gouge is deep enough, the shuttle astronauts may have to patch it during a spacewalk, he said.
Columbia was destroyed during re-entry four years ago because of a hole in its wing, the result of a large chunk of foam insulation that broke off the external fuel tank and slammed into the wing at liftoff. Ice is heavier than foam, however, and would cause more damage to the thermal cover that protects the shuttle from the intense heat of re-entry at flight’s end.
NASA was still rejoicing over the shuttle’s arrival at the space station, and the grand entrance by Morgan, Christa McAuliffe’s backup for Challenger’s tragic mission in 1986, when engineers saw photos of the gouge.
On Sunday, the astronauts will inspect the area, using Endeavour’s 100-foot robot arm and extension beam. Lasers on the end of the beam will gauge the exact size and depth of the gouge, Shannon said, and then engineering analyses will determine whether the damage is severe enough to warrant repairs. The astronauts got a chance to see the damage after Mission Control sent them pictures late Friday.
If the gouge is deemed serious and cannot be fixed, the shuttle astronauts would have to remain at the space station. They have more than two months of supplies with them, and a rescue shuttle could be launched by early October, Shannon said.

The astronauts have three methods for repairing tile damage, if necessary: They could apply black paint, screw on a protective plate, or squirt in goo.

The gouge — white against the black tiles on the underside of Endeavour — is four or five feet from the starboard main landing gear door. It appears to be the result of ice, although engineers are not positive; the damage could have been caused by a piece of foam insulation that came off the fuel tank.
Radar images show a white spray or streak coming off Endeavour 58 seconds after liftoff. Engineers theorize that if the debris was ice, it pierced the tile and then broke up, scraping the area downwind.
“It looks like it was an ice impact to me,” Shannon told reporters.
Even though it was an extremely hot day in Florida when Endeavour lifted off, the fuel tank was loaded with super-cold fuel, which could have allowed dangerously big chunks of ice to form on its surface.
Shannon said it is uncertain how big the debris was. A 1.67-pound chunk of foam led to Columbia’s catastrophic re-entry in 2003.
In all, nine pieces of debris, mostly foam, came off the fuel tank during Wednesday evening’s liftoff, and three were believed to have struck the shuttle. Shannon said further analysis of the photos from Friday’s inspection could uncover more damage.
Commander Scott Kelly was at the controls when Endeavour performed an orbital backflip earlier in the day so the space station crew could photograph the belly and check for any damage.
While still 625 feet out, Kelly steered Endeavour through a complete somersault so the three space station residents could photograph the shuttle’s belly. The 210-mile-high backflip — which lasted nine minutes and spanned the entire Atlantic — has been standard procedure ever since the Columbia disaster, providing a rare camera view of the shuttle’s often-nicked underside.
Space station astronaut Clay Anderson videotaped the backflip, while his two Russian crewmates snapped furiously away on digital cameras equipped with high-powered zoom lenses. Nearly 300 digital pictures were beamed back to Earth.

Shortly afterward, Endeavour pulled up to the space station and neatly parked. The shuttle will remain at the outpost for at least a week.
Morgan’s entrance into the space station was dramatic, to say the least.
Her shuttle crewmates, all but one of whom floated in ahead of her, resembled paparazzi as they photographed her coming through the hatch. The station residents also captured the moment with cameras. She paused, as the flashes popped, a video camera running in her right hand and sunglasses pushed up on her forehead.
Morgan briefly set aside her camera to hug the three space station residents, then took more video of the crowded outpost. She plans to use the video for educational events after the mission.
Of the 10 people aboard the joined spacecraft, Morgan is clearly the attention-getter. The former Idaho elementary schoolteacher backed up McAuliffe during Challenger’s short-lived mission and was invited by NASA into the astronaut corps 12 years later. The Columbia disaster further delayed her trip into space.
Endeavour is delivering several new space station parts, most notably a 2-ton square-shaped beam that will be hooked up to the orbiting outpost on Saturday. The astronauts also will install a giant storage platform for spare parts and a new gyroscope that will replace one that is broken.
NASA, meanwhile, informed the astronauts Friday that their spaceship passed within a mile of a segment from a 32-year-old rocket shortly after reaching orbit. Initially, Mission Control suspected the piece of rocket might come even closer to the shuttle, but opted not to steer out of the way on such short notice. It’s difficult to assess exactly where the shuttle is in orbit, immediately after liftoff, and that’s why flight controllers did not have the shuttle move away, said Matt Abbott, the lead flight director.

OK and this is the best thing our National Space Agency can come up with…fill the gouge with goo :picard:

I have an Aunt that works at NASA and have always been interested in Space and have some cool things from some of the missions like patches and crew photos but this is getting ridiculous.

Been waiting to use this one:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/ryanmcell/homerpicard.jpg

very nice!

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Been waiting to use this one:

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this ones kind of an oxymoron cause homers usually the one who does the stupid shit so its good!

I dont understand why these foam impacts were never a problem until recently.

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Been waiting to use this one:

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Nice :tup:

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OK and this is the best thing our National Space Agency can come up with…fill the gouge with goo :picard:

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So filling the crack so that its a perfect fit seems like a bad idea?:confused:

So they said “goo” instead of polysupertribenzojbweldflorodimethalcloride which no one would know what it is. Its not like there are going to bust out the $5 can of Bondo that was left in there by accident by one of the work crew who bought it on his lunch break so he could work on his car over the weekend.

I just hope everyone makes it back safely and without incident

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I want some for track-side race car repairs :krazyjon:

Its time for some new ships

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I dont understand why these foam impacts were never a problem until recently.

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They weren’t an issue until a shuttle blew up because of some damage to the underside.

I’m sure it doesn’t help that these crafts are quite aged, and should really be replaced with a new design if you ask me.

I understand that its not just “goo” But it did make me chuckle to think how much technology goes into these things for a NASA person to be quoted as calling it goo.

I do agree that the shuttle designs are quite dated and the fact that the same fleet has been around since the 70’s either says how ahead of the times the first ships were or how behind the times they are now.

nasa was supposedly developing a new spacecraft that doesnt need those huge rockets to get in space, some sort of jet that can space travel, but who knows.