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[ProgRocker]

@boardjnky4

yeah it’s a little surprising as well, but in the end, the law accomplishes the same end goal. Shoot if they enter your home.

Just make sure you announce that you are armed and will use deadly force.

[JayS]

NY actually extends that right to use deadly force outside the home as well. It comes down to the test about reasonable and immediate I mentioned earlier, and they throw in the requirement that if you can retreat you should.

@NY Penal Law S 35.15

S 35.15 Justification; use of physical force in defense of a person.

1. A person may, subject to the provisions of subdivision two, use
   physical force upon another person when and to the extent he or she
   reasonably believes such to be necessary to defend himself, herself or a
   third person from what he or she reasonably believes to be the use or
   imminent use of unlawful physical force by such other person, unless:
   (a) The latter’s conduct was provoked by the actor with intent to
   cause physical injury to another person; or
   (b) The actor was the initial aggressor; except that in such case the
   use of physical force is nevertheless justifiable if the actor has
   withdrawn from the encounter and effectively communicated such
   withdrawal to such other person but the latter persists in continuing
   the incident by the use or threatened imminent use of unlawful physical
   force; or
   (c) The physical force involved is the product of a combat by
   agreement not specifically authorized by law.
2. A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person
   under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:
   (a) The actor reasonably believes that such other person is using or
   about to use deadly physical force. Even in such case, however, the
   actor may not use deadly physical force if he or she knows that with
   complete personal safety, to oneself and others he or she may avoid the
   necessity of so doing by retreating; except that the actor is under no
   duty to retreat if he or she is:
   (i) in his or her dwelling and not the initial aggressor; or
   (ii) a police officer or peace officer or a person assisting a police
   officer or a peace officer at the latter`s direction, acting pursuant to
   section 35.30; or
   (b) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing
   or attempting to commit a kidnapping, forcible rape, forcible criminal
   sexual act or robbery; or
   (c) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing
   or attempting to commit a burglary, and the circumstances are such that
   the use of deadly physical force is authorized by subdivision three of
   section 35.20.

If your walking down the street and you see some really sketchy looking guy chasing a woman you can’t shoot him because you think something is about to happen.

If your walking down the street and you see some sketchy looking guy with a knife chasing a woman while yelling, “bitch I’m gonna stab you”, you can shoot him. Yes no one is in a home but it’s a reasonable conclusion that he is going to immediately inflict possible life ending injuries on her. She’s trying to retreat but since he’s giving chase the retreat isn’t working.

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It’s scary how many times I’ll talk about this with people who have pistol permits or other home defense weapons and they have no clue what the laws actually are.

[boardjnky4]

@JayS

NY actually extends that right to use deadly force outside the home as well. It comes down to the test about reasonable and immediate I mentioned earlier, and they throw in the requirement that if you can retreat you should.

If your walking down the street and you see some really sketchy looking guy chasing a woman you can’t shoot him because you think something is about to happen.

If your walking down the street and you see some sketchy looking guy with a knife chasing a woman while yelling, “bitch I’m gonna stab you”, you can shoot him. Yes no one is in a home but it’s a reasonable conclusion that he is going to immediately inflict possible life ending injuries on her. She’s trying to retreat but since he’s giving chase the retreat isn’t working.

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It’s scary how many times I’ll talk about this with people who have pistol permits or other home defense weapons and they have no clue what the laws actually are.

yeah, you’re right. it’s very scary.

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@ProgRocker

Just make sure you announce that you are armed and will use deadly force.

absolutely not necessary

[JayS]

@boardjnky4

absolutely not necessary

And tactically a really bad decision.

[Gl1]

FYI burglary isn’t stealing something, it’s entering a building with intent to commit a crime.

bur·gla·ry
/ˈbərglərē/
Noun
Entry into a building illegally with intent to commit a crime, esp. theft.

So, it could be argued that if you let them into your house, and THEN they steal something, then you can’t shoot them.

[Coldaccord]

If death is an appropriate recourse for petty theft, why aren’t those convicted of petty theft sentenced to death?

I’ve never personally used an escort before (wink wink) but is the argument here that he hired an escort, she said sex wasn’t included, and bounced? Did she just come over take money and leave, or did they go somewhere or something? Dude should’ve laid out the ground rules before paying. Let the buyer beware. Or be acquitted of murder

[boardjnky4]

Yeah she came in his house, he gave her $150 to fuck. She claimed she had to give the cash to her pimp before they got started. She then hopped in pimp vehicle and they sped off. He shot at their tires to stop them. Bullet fragment ricocheted and hit her.

[RedGoober4Life]

He must be one ugly dude.

[snowracer101]

idk, i’m indifferent about this…

human life is very valuable to me… but I veiw theft as one of those acts, along with rape and murder that actually lowers a human to that of an animal or worse.

I fucking hate thieves. Would I shoot a thief if I caught him red handed with my property? Nah, but I would confront him and get my property back, and if he put up a fight to that where I feared for my own life…well then…

[ultradriver10000]

I feel that if you’re willing to take others property, you’re putting your life at risk. You know the risk / reward before you do it.

Shit half you guys say speeding bikers get what they deserve, but you wouldn’t be alive if the punishment for speeding was death.

Oh and the pimp/hoe where running a racket, they did this to a bunch of guys taking their moneys.

[1QIKZ]

@ProgRocker

Just make sure you announce that you are armed and will use deadly force.

I guarantee they won’t hear me over the sound of the first four rounds fired in rapid succession.

[RedGoober4Life]

Machoism is really fascinating.

Some thoughts:

1. The first because it’s the most important thought I have. I’d rather be shot dead than get dicked by this busted ass fella:

2. I wonder if people in Texas who would shoot somebody for “wronging” them go to church on Sunday.

3. How is paying somebody for sex more ethical than stealing? You’re already asking to get fucked.