not really. just cause they are ‘mainstream’ and youre all hardcore trails guy. congrats but obviously i’m not real big into street / trails (sometimes though) i just wanted a good chromo frame that i could go to the track with and occasionally jump. back when i rode alot, i owned 4 different Powerlites (1 P38, P61’s and a XL alum…made by GT) and i thought they were great. so ya, i do have a clue.